Comments on: will it go round in circles http://sticksoffire.com/2005/12/13/will-it-go-round-in-circles/ A very loose interpretation of the news and happenings in and around Tampa Sun, 11 Jul 2010 02:33:19 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Sticks of Fire: a Tampa blog » block party http://sticksoffire.com/2005/12/13/will-it-go-round-in-circles/comment-page-1/#comment-12782 Sticks of Fire: a Tampa blog » block party Wed, 10 May 2006 17:12:10 +0000 http://sticksoffire.com/?p=562#comment-12782 [...] A lot of people see Tampa Bay as a whole comprised of many parts.  That’s a nice thought, but it doesn’t necessarily indicate that all the parts have any affection for each other.  There’s plenty of dysfunction between the general public, the media and especially our local governments.  So as the area quickly grows into an uber-suburb, how do we get each distinct piece thinking together as one? [...] [...] A lot of people see Tampa Bay as a whole comprised of many parts.  That’s a nice thought, but it doesn’t necessarily indicate that all the parts have any affection for each other.  There’s plenty of dysfunction between the general public, the media and especially our local governments.  So as the area quickly grows into an uber-suburb, how do we get each distinct piece thinking together as one? [...]

]]> By: Sticks of Fire: a Tampa blog » regional transportation gets attention http://sticksoffire.com/2005/12/13/will-it-go-round-in-circles/comment-page-1/#comment-10984 Sticks of Fire: a Tampa blog » regional transportation gets attention Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:08:27 +0000 http://sticksoffire.com/?p=562#comment-10984 [...] You may recall the Hillsborough County BOCC refused to discuss joining a partnership for regional transportation. Jim Sebesta has introduced a bill that will force them to join in. [...] [...] You may recall the Hillsborough County BOCC refused to discuss joining a partnership for regional transportation. Jim Sebesta has introduced a bill that will force them to join in. [...]

]]> By: Sticks of Fire: a Tampa blog » Bus Rapid Transit http://sticksoffire.com/2005/12/13/will-it-go-round-in-circles/comment-page-1/#comment-2064 Sticks of Fire: a Tampa blog » Bus Rapid Transit Thu, 29 Dec 2005 14:03:29 +0000 http://sticksoffire.com/?p=562#comment-2064 [...] Another idea for local commuting. It sounds like a non starter to me because it depends at least partially on cooperation between the county transit systems and a Hillsborough county commision willing to push it through. Neither seems likely given past history. Also I hate to agree with Turnachik, he of of Civitas, InTown homes, and the Tampa 2012 Olympic bid but unless a whole lot of people choose to ride these buses it won’t affect rush hour traffic. Why would most people choose the bus? I have ridden from St Pete to Tampa a bit on the PSTA 300x but truth be told it takes a lot longer than driving. [...] [...] Another idea for local commuting. It sounds like a non starter to me because it depends at least partially on cooperation between the county transit systems and a Hillsborough county commision willing to push it through. Neither seems likely given past history. Also I hate to agree with Turnachik, he of of Civitas, InTown homes, and the Tampa 2012 Olympic bid but unless a whole lot of people choose to ride these buses it won’t affect rush hour traffic. Why would most people choose the bus? I have ridden from St Pete to Tampa a bit on the PSTA 300x but truth be told it takes a lot longer than driving. [...]

]]> By: Sticks of Fire: a Tampa blog » getting bigger faster http://sticksoffire.com/2005/12/13/will-it-go-round-in-circles/comment-page-1/#comment-2030 Sticks of Fire: a Tampa blog » getting bigger faster Mon, 26 Dec 2005 22:45:53 +0000 http://sticksoffire.com/?p=562#comment-2030 [...] Hillsborough County, who refused to join a conversation about regional transit, is falling further and further behind Pinellas on a pretty consistent basis these days. [...] [...] Hillsborough County, who refused to join a conversation about regional transit, is falling further and further behind Pinellas on a pretty consistent basis these days. [...]

]]> By: John http://sticksoffire.com/2005/12/13/will-it-go-round-in-circles/comment-page-1/#comment-1840 John Wed, 14 Dec 2005 01:23:01 +0000 http://sticksoffire.com/?p=562#comment-1840 Well, the Rivalry was due to inferiority complexes or just ego. But right now, with Ronda and Brian, it's neo-con rule and mass anything or anything progressive is strictly a no-no. Well, the Rivalry was due to inferiority complexes or just ego.

But right now, with Ronda and Brian, it’s neo-con rule and mass anything or anything progressive is strictly a no-no.

]]> By: Bryan http://sticksoffire.com/2005/12/13/will-it-go-round-in-circles/comment-page-1/#comment-1838 Bryan Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:57:13 +0000 http://sticksoffire.com/?p=562#comment-1838 Orlando already has a successful tri-county bus service. Why should they be more progressive than Tampa Bay? I never understood why there is such rivalry between the counties. Orlando already has a successful tri-county bus service. Why should they be more progressive than Tampa Bay? I never understood why there is such rivalry between the counties.

]]> By: piratechic http://sticksoffire.com/2005/12/13/will-it-go-round-in-circles/comment-page-1/#comment-1837 piratechic Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:48:24 +0000 http://sticksoffire.com/?p=562#comment-1837 I would love reliable mass transit from Pinellas to Hillsborough. If there was I'd comtinue my education at USF in a heartbeat. As it stands now I cannot afford to move to Tampa or the time it would take me to commute there on the current bus system (4 hours each way if I catch all the busses on time.) I'm interested in math and science programs which are not offered at Eckerd or the St. Pete USF campus. I am happy to see the PSTA working on so many great new things, including express routes and increased service on some routes- sometimes the busses are crowded! Often all the bike racks are full on the bus as well. I will email the other counties to get onboard already! I would love reliable mass transit from Pinellas to Hillsborough. If there was I’d comtinue my education at USF in a heartbeat. As it stands now I cannot afford to move to Tampa or the time it would take me to commute there on the current bus system (4 hours each way if I catch all the busses on time.)

I’m interested in math and science programs which are not offered at Eckerd or the St. Pete USF campus. I am happy to see the PSTA working on so many great new things, including express routes and increased service on some routes- sometimes the busses are crowded! Often all the bike racks are full on the bus as well. I will email the other counties to get onboard already!

]]> By: John http://sticksoffire.com/2005/12/13/will-it-go-round-in-circles/comment-page-1/#comment-1829 John Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:17:58 +0000 http://sticksoffire.com/?p=562#comment-1829 I routinely want to commute between Pinellas and Hillsborough Counties - and yet of course there is no true transit option between the two counties besides some hard-to-figure-out buses. I've emailed members of the city of Tampa commissioners in the past along with members of the Pinellas county BOCC. I've talked with Jim Sebesta and (as you note from Gax) the obstacle is local cooperation. While some people see the need -- such as Kathy Castor, who replied to my letter years ago -- there are others who would much rather spend money on redundant sports complexes and such, and help keep Tampa Bay the unconnected, backwater burg that the region has been oft criticized for in the past. The status quo is more important than thinking forward to certain bird brains.... I routinely want to commute between Pinellas and Hillsborough Counties – and yet of course there is no true transit option between the two counties besides some hard-to-figure-out buses.

I’ve emailed members of the city of Tampa commissioners in the past along with members of the Pinellas county BOCC. I’ve talked with Jim Sebesta and (as you note from Gax) the obstacle is local cooperation.

While some people see the need — such as Kathy Castor, who replied to my letter years ago — there are others who would much rather spend money on redundant sports complexes and such, and help keep Tampa Bay the unconnected, backwater burg that the region has been oft criticized for in the past. The status quo is more important than thinking forward to certain bird brains….

]]> By: Fred http://sticksoffire.com/2005/12/13/will-it-go-round-in-circles/comment-page-1/#comment-1823 Fred Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:29:04 +0000 http://sticksoffire.com/?p=562#comment-1823 I don't live in Hillsborough County and when I see how idiotic Storms, Blair & the rest of them are, I'm glad I don't! I don’t live in Hillsborough County and when I see how idiotic Storms, Blair & the rest of them are, I’m glad I don’t!

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