don’t protest original ideas
A story on the St Pete Times site caught my eye recently. Eric Deggans takes a look at the lack of widely popular protest songs, which he considers strange in the current climate. I would disagree with the idea that protest songs have disappeared. Instead, I would argue that hit music in general has been in sharp decline.
I posted the story to a politically active online board and asked for (and received) a list of current protest songs. Deggans and I also had a bit of a back ‘n’ forth about the subject via email (hit the “more” button below).
But regardless of my opinion on the subject, it is nice to see one of our local papers producing material that is normally left to national outlets such as AP or the New York Times or to weekly news magazines like Newsweek and Time. I love that the Times went to the effort of producing a well written and researched piece that isn’t either a local news story, a reprint of other papers material, or simply a re-write of AP wire stories stitched together over a staff writer’s byline.
When national stories are covered by the Trib and the Times it seems they are just one of dozens of similar stories written by media outlets nationwide. This is different. Eric took an idea for a story nobody was doing (that I know of) and built it from scratch.
I wish local media would do more of these.
Email exchange is below.
from me to Eric Deggans:
Just thought I would let you know that I posted a thing on your story to a message board and got quite a few examples of current protest songs.
Who the f*ck listens to the radio anymore for new music anyway?
http://williamgibsonboard.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/286601…631052952#3631052952
and Deggans’ reply:
Hmm. Your email makes me wonder if you read the story, or just complaints about it. My piece was an attempt to look at why we don’t have huge hit protest songs like What’s Going On in the modern day.
So my piece was looking at pop stars and big name artists mostly. Cool as Steve Earle and Ani DiFranco are, they are not as popular as Marvin Gaye, the Temptations and James brown were when they started doing protest music.
Back then, these artists were the biggest pop stars on the planet. and they turned protest music into a Top 40 genre for a short while. That’s what Sunday’s story was about…
Here are three paragraphs about a quarter of the way into the story:
“While rock and pop artists such as Pink, the Rolling Stones, Bruce Springsteen and Neil Young have earned media coverage this year for their protest songs, that work hasn’t sold well or received much radio airplay.
For example, Young’s Living With War record has sold just 212,000 copies, and Springsteen’s protest revival The Seeger Sessions has sold only 526,000 copies, according to Nielsen SoundScan. In comparison, Springsteen’s last record, 2005’s Devils & Dust, sold 220,000 copies in its first week.
The possible culprits are many: tightened radio play lists, a less turbulent social scene (no military draft to galvanize youth, a muted civil rights movement) and a fragmented audience that seems less tolerant of such controversial messages. Teens may download their own favorite protest songs these days, but that rarely produces the kind of cultural consensus that makes for enduring pop hits.”
So, as you can see, I never said all artists stopped writing them. But radio and the music establishment has stopped playing them to level needed to produce big hits…
I would also refer you to my blog –http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/media/ — to see what I’ve said about the reaction.
Thanks for the email, regardless….
Eric Deggans
TV/Media Critic
St. Petersburg (Fla.) Times
(727) 893-8521
http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/media/
http://www.sptimes.com/columns/deggans.shtml http://www.myspace.com/ericdeggans
to which I sent
I think there are plenty of protest songs out there but there are fewer musicians than ever who really are superstars in the sense of most of your examples. Marvin and James Brown were huge stars but at the time limited outlets for new music made it possible for individual artists to dominate particular genres of music more easily. In other words how many other artists were never heard because Geffen or Island of whoever was too busy promoting their two or three biggest names and securing them airtime to make those protest songs so famous. Your other examples are all, with the exception of Pink, old guys that have pretty limited appeal outside the AARP set. Today, when it is so easy to record, mix, and promote music you have more bands than ever that are able to carve out a niche of their own, this prevents any one group from gaining the traction in public conciousness nessesary to make the BIG PROTEST SONG that you are looking for.
This isn’t nessesarily a bad thing. More bands mean more music than ever, you just won’t find them on any top 100 list.
The end.
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August 18th, 2006 at 10:37 am
Um, I had a recollection of recently hearing a LOT about the lack of protest songs today. So I googled. It’s not an original story, there are many decrying the dearth.
My take: apparently rappers can’t come up with anything that rhymes with quagmire.
August 18th, 2006 at 10:50 am
Not surprising that Deggans would attempt to argue to the death with you when all you were doing was putting in your own two cents’ worth (been there, got that). Clearly they don’t give him enough work to do at the Times. Can you imagine what this guy must have been like in prep school?
August 18th, 2006 at 11:06 am
There is the last Green Day album. That sold well. Part of the problem with Springsteen and Young is that it has been a long time since they’ve made great albums. (My opinion.) Radio formats are tighter and MTV is more interested in reality shows than music.
There is music that deals with topical issues. Parts of the last two Kayne West albums come to mind.
August 18th, 2006 at 11:20 am
Apparently, Sandy does not listen to be Beastie Boys.
August 18th, 2006 at 11:45 am
Why did you have to say f*ck to that nice reporter?
August 18th, 2006 at 2:04 pm
American Idiot was certainly a protest album, but it was both a bit too experimental and too polished to really be recognized as one.
Country music has a fantastic song in “Martin Leedy” (chorus: Mister let me make myself perfectly clear/We don’t want another Wal-Mart here) but it doesn’t get any radio play at all. Ditto for records like Wil Kimbrough’s “Grown Up Now” etc.
Like it or not, radio still rules the culture world, and with all of Bush’s deregulation, some markets are at 100% saturation of Clear Channel content. So yeah, they have incentive to maintain the status quo, and so more socially-aware records don’t get play.
Oh, and there was a great rap track that got some radio play a few years ago: Memorial Day by The Perceptionists (”Where are the weapons of mass destruction/We been lookin’ for months but we ain’t found nothin’/Please Mr. President tell us somethin’/We knew from the beginning that yo’ ass was bluffin”)… that whole album is fantastic, especially “Careerfinders” (featuring Shock G aka Humpty Hump) that rips the thug image of contemporary rap.
Seriously, y’all, go find that Perceptionists record.
August 18th, 2006 at 3:56 pm
Perceptionists - good call, Tim!
But the bigger problem with this discussion is the desire for protest albums. There are a ton of good protest songs out there. As much as I love the album form, this is the 21st - just do some downloading (legally or not so much) and make your own.
I’ll get you started:
“Mosh” by Eminem - Anyone who gets turned off by the juvenile jokes and whatnot can just get this track. It might be hard to stomach the man that gave us Slim Shady doing politics, but it’s a fine song with a fine beat.
“Faraway” by Sleater-Kinney - Any chance I can get to plug these girls. The song isn’t all protest, but it does deal with 9/11 pretty directly. And if you need a little liberal fire in your protest songs, “And the president hides/While working men rush in/And give their lives” will do just fine.