Trenton Duckett Open Thread #5
tommyNew post up at Trenton Duckett discussion number six.
People are still talking about little Trenton Duckett. The latest post has over 500 comments. I expect we’ll keep allowing the conversation to continue as long as necessary.
I would like to remind the commenters that this website does not monitor nor delete comments (other than the spam filter). However, I expect everyone to act like adults. Here are some basic guidelines for commenters:
- No personal attacks on other commenters. Again - I don’t want to monitor nor delete comments, but if the attacks get out of hand, I will close the post.
- Keep the conversation directly related to the Duckett story. There’s no room for a comment that just says “Hi Everyone, just got back.”
To read the discussion so far, check our previous posts:
- Amber Alert Leesburg Trenton Duckett
- Melinda Duckett dead, son still missing
- Trenton Duckett Discussion Continued
- Trenton Duckett Discussion Open Thread 4
October 8th, 2006 at 5:42 pm
[...] Update 8 October 2006: Because of comment length, this blog entry has closed. Please continue discussions here. [...]
October 8th, 2006 at 6:52 pm
I understand that LE doesn’t want any crime scene compromised while doing searches for little Trenton but if many people are willing to do searches in that area, couldn’t LE just let the searchers know that if they find anything at all (bones etc)to let them know? I just don’t understand LE stopping ALL searches, or only allowing 6 people to search. Does anyone know anything about this?
October 8th, 2006 at 7:48 pm
any new news guys? I am still praying for the little guy.
October 8th, 2006 at 9:04 pm
10.8.2006
Dear brian
there was an email i sent the other night asking you about trenton duckett. I aksed you if you thought he would be found and you wrote me back and I thank you very much but you never posted my email here on ducketts case and I am now being called a liar that I even wrote or you responded.I am confused why some of emails are posted here and others are not. Please reply and do you see any further information on this little boy?thanks again so very much.
reply
Hi, everything gets posted, but it does sometimes take me a few days. I would not worry too much about what people think of you, I know you care. I just did another RV on Trenton, yet still nothing…well nothing I’m going to post right now, as what I just saw might have been someone else.
Brian
October 8th, 2006 at 9:13 pm
can you please give an update on trenton duckett??????please?
tell me if we will ever find this little boy?
mkarroyo@yahoo.com
Hi, yes I do think we will.
Brian
October 8th, 2006 at 9:14 pm
http://www.briansprediction.com/warnings122.htm
you all can check for updates
October 8th, 2006 at 10:46 pm
I don’t believe it. What Brian said anyway about Trenton being abducted by some guy on a motorcycle. I don’t buy it.
October 8th, 2006 at 11:02 pm
I agree, Montana
October 8th, 2006 at 11:03 pm
I am sure everyone saw this. This is the second time I have read that This police officer went to investigate Allegations that Melinda was hurting her son and that she gave this Police officer a bJ Sounds like there is some truth to it if he resigned. That part of the article I posted below. There is another article that said That Melinda told Josh she gave the cop a BJ…..looks like it was true though
The introductory entries of DCF’s timeline coincide with a sexual encounter that Melinda had with a Bushnell police officer in April 2005. Officer Duane E. Vaughan resigned April 28, 2005, after he was confronted about the tryst, Bushnell Chief Joyce Wells said Wednesday.
Vaughan, contacted in Center Hill where he was hired last year as a police officer, denied he had a personal relationship with Melinda. He said he resigned for personal reasons.
Wells said she had worried the affair would compromise the police department, which was investigating a complaint from Joshua Duckett about Melinda’s care of their son.
Wells said she asked Vaughan to resign because the sex occurred while he was on duty.
October 8th, 2006 at 11:04 pm
catsmom,
Good At least I am not the only one. I just don’t buy that. LOL
October 8th, 2006 at 11:12 pm
all…Carla’s husband is Kevin Massero. I would assume that his drug use is as recent as last year because the DCF docs mention it in 2005. Also, it doesn’t surprise me one bit that she is friends with the chief of police and has a cocaine-addicted husband. The police can be as corrupt as anyone.
October 8th, 2006 at 11:24 pm
I dont think Brian’s Predictions said…being abducted by some guy ON a motorcycle. it said he might RIDE a motorcycle. I read it as he may OWN a motorcycle. He could own a truck,car,van too.
October 8th, 2006 at 11:24 pm
I hope Brian doesn’t mean that the motorcycle was involved - could you imagine? Trying to use a motorcycle as the get away vehicle in an abduction? I’m sure Brian meant something different, but the image in my head was hilarious. I still don’t buy it either way.
October 8th, 2006 at 11:26 pm
Thats my understanding anyway… I still dont know what to think of it all myself but if it might help bring Trenton home it’s worth a try anyway.
October 8th, 2006 at 11:28 pm
it’s been over a month now so I think anything is worth trying.
October 8th, 2006 at 11:34 pm
I know you are trying to bring Trenton home and I understand, but I just don’t believe it. I thought it said “this is who kidnapped Trenton” Any way someone on here did not believe that Melinda was cutting herself. Here is the DCF link that proves that Melinda Admitted it herself:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2006-10/25771945.PDF
Anyway after reading DCF reports it kept saying that Josh did nothing to stop Melinda from being abusive. I thought that was a strange statement, seeings how if you read all that they wrote about Melinda they should add “and WE DID NOTHING to protect Trenton either”
I don’t know but I was pretty discusted with their report. Melinda said she NEver drank and we all know from her blogs that was a LIE and she never took drugs…Ummm and She NEVER was going to commit suicide?? why did not someone find that 2004 suicide note before this is beyond me. The social worker having dinner with Melinda???? sounds like Melinda was quite the little manipulator!!!!! After reading this report I was discusted with the DCF just discusted!
October 8th, 2006 at 11:36 pm
They even acknowledge that Melinda bought a gun???What is Wrong with DCF, are they just STUPID????
October 8th, 2006 at 11:47 pm
in that same report, it states that around 12-13-2005, kevin massero was incarcerated for drug use and that he returned home to Carla and did not go to rehab as suggested.
October 8th, 2006 at 11:59 pm
Yes I saw that too. I wonder were they heard that, notice there is nothing in that that says were they “heard” of that. I sure would like to find out how they found that out.
October 9th, 2006 at 1:10 am
Montana -where who learned what?
October 9th, 2006 at 1:49 am
As I posted early on in the thread, I explained how Topix worked with naming the cities, or lack there off, depending on your ISP and the PINGS your computer reaches. That is why, even you, Doe, don’t have the correct city, per your claim.
Look carefully at each posting name
anom666
October 9th, 2006 at 1:51 am
sorry posted wrong article all………that was last night.just got registed here and it kool.I go back to find link on trent.
October 9th, 2006 at 7:35 am
#11
You are correct as I did some further reading last night. It was December of 2005 that Joyce Wells was made aware of the incident, and of his failure to attend rehabilitation as ordered.
October 9th, 2006 at 7:36 am
#18
BH, sorry, should have kept reading, I see now that you posted the date.
October 9th, 2006 at 10:19 am
Blog artist,
We were talking about the cociane problem that the step father had. They did not say in that report how they found out. The case worker just said she had learned of it.
October 9th, 2006 at 10:41 am
I wonder who Melinda threatened? As it says in the report that Melinda threatened and then the name is blacked out, to shoot if —-name blacked out again if she called Josh again. So Melinda threatened to shoot someone else besides trenton and Josh. It says Melinda did NOT deny the threat.Also she bought the gun on the black market? No one seems concerned? They have an obvious attitude towards Josh thou. As it stated “josh returned to the comfort of his Mother” that was very sarcastic.
Can someone give me the article that states that Carla was friends with the cheif of police?
Did you see the part where she said that Trenton would be gone and if you don’t get it by now you will read it in the paper?
Trenton was haveing nightmares and did not want The elder Eubanks to seperate from him. How sad.
It said the case worker “learned that Kevin Massero was incarcerated” Then goes on to say that Melinda was concerned about Trenton being in that environment. So sounds like she Learned it from Melinda. Interesting that Melida says she was “concerned” obviously Melinda used that to her advantage and control over that situation. Wow…just so discusted with DCF I really am. They seem more concerned with Melinda’s home and employment then they do about the Welfare of this child. Maybe when Melinda lost her job she thought that that would mean that she would lose custody? That just added to her issues.
October 9th, 2006 at 10:48 am
There is so much paperwork with this case I can’t believe it. Also, it seems like DCF was just hoping that Melinda was all talk and no action. It shows that there is no regard for the kids in Florida, but this is not just true about Florida. Even here in New York DFC has repeatedly let children down.
October 9th, 2006 at 10:52 am
In the case report there was only one appointed for Trenton that said that she did not feel comfortable sending Trenton back to Melinda. The other case worker “kate” seemed not to Smart. They are very upset with Kevin for obvious reasons as he went to jail for drugs. But Melinda was threatening to shoot people. I know they can’t do anything until she actually shot someone, but they are so backwards in this it is not even sensible. Of course I am looking at it after the fact so that is to my advantage but I still am very discusted with DCF can you tell? A mother that makes threats against her child should NOT have that child PERIOD. I have never made any threats against my four children to anyone not even my X husband. I was 16 years old when my first son was born, so I was pretty damn immature too, but NEVER EVER hurt my children or threatened to harm them. THis is a RED FLAG and they should have DONE something. IT said in the report that Josh Knew of the threats and DID nothing to protect Trenton, how stupid are these case workers? What did they expect him to do? THey themselves WERE NOT taking enough action to assure Trentons Safety either! THey called Josh Immature…ok? He was immature, so what are they going to do about it. Make Melinda go to counciling? Obviously she played the part well because they thought she did well in her classes???? Well anyone could as long as they play the game! Sorry folks as you can see DCF is not a fan of mine. As I said before I have had a few run in’s with DCYF in Montana and they were just As STUPID!
October 9th, 2006 at 10:54 am
It looks like in that same paperwork she threatened a person by the name of Angela Aiken. Anyone know who that is in relationship to Melinda? In the reports it states that she also threatened to shoot others. MD definitely had some serious anger issues.
October 9th, 2006 at 11:12 am
Serious anger issues to put it lightly. This little boy never ever had a chance.
October 9th, 2006 at 11:30 am
I only have one daugher I have three boys also, but if my daugher acted like this I would have taken her child away. forget DCF. The child I would have just taken. I guess that is what Melinda did not have a parent that was trying to help her. She had her Grandparents but they were elderly.
October 9th, 2006 at 11:40 am
I think her grandparents took better care of her than her parents. Instead of Josh’s mother helping her she made her life miserable. She herself wanted the baby. As it ended up - nobody got the baby.
Grandparents don’t want to believe that their granddaughter could do anything wrong. I’m sure she was a good girl when around them. They did their best, but as you said, they were elderly.
It still kills me that her parents are saying nothing and ran home as soon as they could. I don’t care how poor you are - if your grandson is missing - you help look. They have run into the sunset and aren’t looking back. How sad.
October 9th, 2006 at 11:45 am
Maybe they have issues to hid themselves? Actually maybe they somewhat blame themselves. I am single working two jobs and If my Grandchild was missing I would work from where I am at to bring him home. I wouldn’t have enough money to just stop working I mean that really isn’t realistic even if we think we would we couldnt without money. I think Melinda’s Mother pretty much said how she felt. She said that they didn’t have money to go to Melinda when they were going to have to go to Trent’s funeral. I believe they know full well that Melinda killed Trenton. That is one reason they are not in the spot light nor looking for Trenton. They knew Melinda well and they should know…and they do know. That is why they are not doing anything and are in hiding. They are ashamed.
October 9th, 2006 at 11:47 am
Oops, what I meant to say is I would quit my job and move to where my Grandbaby was get a job and work from there….sorry. But in my heart if I knew that he was dead I would go on a search of all those area’s until I found that baby to give him a proper burial and a place to go so that I could grieve for the rest of my life.
But I have no Grandchildren as of yet….
October 9th, 2006 at 11:52 am
I would go to that area, and be with the police finding out where Melinda was. I would gather my own search party and go out there and comb that area bit by bit until I found him. But then since Melinda lived by the place where they incinerate garbage…that is probably where Trenton is. Melinda wanted to be cremated and that jumped out at me. She probably did the same to Trenton. I don’t think Trenton will ever be found.
October 9th, 2006 at 12:11 pm
Montana:
I feel exactly as you do. Unfortunately, she was too calm in taking her own life. If she didn’t do it, she would be here looking for him. As far as her parents being ashamed - I hope they are. God knows what they are hiding and they will get theirs when their time comes. Honest, I’m not a religious person.
October 9th, 2006 at 12:21 pm
I know. I am pretty much sick of over it. It touches my life to close. Abuse suicide sexual abuse…the only difference is We fought and won. We are the lucky ones.
I just am sick over DCF’s report. They say that Trenton was happy and went to his Mother willingly. That is so kindergarden logic it isn’t even funny! Kids that are only 2 years old do That, even if their parent is abusive…they don’t know any different. They don’t know it is abuse until they are older! Trenton was 2 and apparently didn’t talk as Melinda said on TV…he wouldn’t rebell against Melinda until he was much older and would be able to fully understand his Mother. These people in these positions seem so uneducated I don’t understand that. They have NO IDEA what child abuse is and I think people who have experienced child abuse would be far more educated then these idiots! Saying that Trenton seems happy with his Mother??? Give me a break, the kid knows nothing else!
October 9th, 2006 at 12:24 pm
Sorry I will get off that kick. I am so sick over this and all cases of child abuse. I can’t stand it. I need to just move on with it. I can’t change anything I can’t do anything about it. The world is just so corupt and discusting!
October 9th, 2006 at 12:25 pm
http://www.wesh.com/news/10034778/detail.html
October 9th, 2006 at 12:34 pm
PFT:
Please keep us posted. Hope it is an older person. Please keep us posted and we will continue to pray.
October 9th, 2006 at 12:39 pm
This was a grown man not a child that they found. I saw it on another news site
October 9th, 2006 at 12:39 pm
Thanks anonymous. That’s a relief.
October 9th, 2006 at 12:46 pm
Yes…what a relief…Thanks.
October 9th, 2006 at 12:47 pm
It scared me…it reminding me of what that other person said…”you will find Trenton wrapped in a blanket” how freaky is that?
October 9th, 2006 at 12:49 pm
Well on Wesh They said they had not released if it was child or adult but that it was a male.What broadcast did you see it on #41?
October 9th, 2006 at 12:52 pm
I do not know how to add links, but here is oart of the write up. If you go to local6.com you will see the story and there is a picture.
ORLANDO, Fla. — A man feeding some ducks early Sunday discovered the body of a man floating in Lake Dot near the TD Waterhouse Centre, according to Local 6 News.
October 9th, 2006 at 12:54 pm
Somehow this part got left off.
Detectives said they found a wallet in the man’s pocket but are not releasing his name.
October 9th, 2006 at 12:56 pm
These are two different places in florida near each other but not the same and different bodies
the body wrapped in the blanket was not found in the water.
October 9th, 2006 at 12:56 pm
the one in the blanket was found on one of the new roads
October 9th, 2006 at 1:08 pm
They said the one found by the road was in Brevard County & it appears to be a homicide.
October 9th, 2006 at 1:11 pm
The other that anonymous was talking about was in brevard too but it was at the td waterhouse and was in the water
October 9th, 2006 at 1:17 pm
Thanks info I went & checked it out.Thats kind of erie both cases.Plus they are searching for missing boy in Orange,county.All to sad.
October 9th, 2006 at 1:39 pm
http://www.wesh.com/news/10034778/detail.html
Ok this is Adult male too.In his early 20’s.
October 9th, 2006 at 1:52 pm
I wonder if this man has anything to do with Trenton. He is an adult male in his 20’s. The police know his identity but aren’t releasing it yet.
I pray that Little Trenton is found soon. I am anxious to see what Brian comes up with at his next reading.
October 9th, 2006 at 1:57 pm
Testing.
October 9th, 2006 at 2:39 pm
hey ghfan…. no more problems blogging here. I see your “testing” heard anything new?
October 9th, 2006 at 3:26 pm
Hey its great to be back. I did find a new article yesterday . From teen sweethearts to bitter foes from the sun sentinel.
I think it detailed their relationship even more. It also told how Melinda killed herself.
I do keep going back and forth about if she killed Trenton or gave him away.
Does anyone know if their ever was a paternity test? In this article it speaks about Melinda sleeping with another guy and Josh found out.
I am curious if Trenton belongs to Josh. If not, maybe the birth father could know where the child is?
October 9th, 2006 at 3:33 pm
NG is covering the cae tonight.
October 9th, 2006 at 3:37 pm
why wouldn’t Trenton be Josh’s? now you’re reaching
October 9th, 2006 at 3:39 pm
It makes me so sad that all these bodies are being found in Florida. First…the fact that that is even happening. It’s so sad for any person to lose their life and then left for someone to ‘find’
Second… why can’t they find Trenton? Kinda give me more hope that he is alive.
I have read that all the bodies found.. water by TD Waterhouse and blanket wrapped in developing subdivision…were adult males.
Also the little autistic boy body has been found.
October 9th, 2006 at 3:41 pm
Mark Fiesel? that little autistic boy?
October 9th, 2006 at 3:41 pm
Not sure why my last post did not show up…
Maybe it’s just taking awhile
The little autistic boys body has been found
Also… the TD Waterhouse was an adult male
and so was the blanket wrapped body in the developing subdivision.
October 9th, 2006 at 3:43 pm
#61 - it was posted. then I asked you if your talking about the body of Mark Fiesel, the autistic boy
October 9th, 2006 at 3:45 pm
catsmom you are right. I am reaching. Just a long shot to rationalize how its possible Trenton could still be alive and who would take him and hide him.
from the article.
Then, Josh confronted Melinda one day in the school cafeteria when a friend told him he had slept with Melinda.
Melinda yelled at the friend until he retracted it.
“And then it came out that it was true,” Josh said.
Wesh is reporting on their website they may have found the body of the little Orange co boy.
So sad.
October 9th, 2006 at 3:47 pm
IMO, ghfan: If TD wasn’t JD’s son then she probably would’ve been happy to prove it so that JD couldn’t have TD. I wasn’t trying to insult your theory. sorry, I know it came out that way.
October 9th, 2006 at 3:48 pm
I see that now. I had to log out and log back in before either of my last two posts showd up.
And yes… thats him. I didn’t know his name. But they have confirmed that it was him in a pond not far from where he was missing from. Poor little guy.
October 9th, 2006 at 3:50 pm
http://www.wesh.com/news/10029151/detail.html?treets=orl&tml=orl_break&ts=T&tmi=orl_break_1_02220210092006
Police believe it’s the 5-yr old autistic boy.
October 9th, 2006 at 3:50 pm
from leesburg: I must be naming the wrong boy -Mark Fiesel was from Ohio and his foster parents burned his body. Sorry for the confusion. What the hell is wrong with people? killing children? God help us all
October 9th, 2006 at 3:50 pm
NOW THEY NEED TO FIND TRENTON!!!
October 9th, 2006 at 3:53 pm
The 5 yr old’s name is…. Aaron Campbell
…he’s the cute little black boy
October 9th, 2006 at 3:53 pm
cm I didnt take it as an insult:) and you were correct. I am reaching.
I think Melinda was manipulatively enough that if she loved Josh that she would do whatever she had to do to get him.
I think Trenton became a weapon to her as an attempt to control Josh. Cara said in a ctv interview that Melinda still loved Josh but wouldnt admit it.
October 9th, 2006 at 3:54 pm
catsmom…. I head about the Ohio boy. I still don’t know what the autistic boys name is. But i think it was WESH or WFTV that said when divers went into the pond, they were about 10 feet in, had their backs turned to a group of friends and family. Then an officer led them away (the group)
Orlando Sintenel has confirmed it’s him and I think all the news channels now.
At first they said they found a body but would not confirm if it was him or not…. I thought of Trenton.
October 9th, 2006 at 3:58 pm
I wish TD would be found, alive or dead. Then that part of the mystery would be over. To think he’s somewhere out there and no one knows one way or another what’s happened. I would be insane by now if it were one of my children
October 9th, 2006 at 3:59 pm
KM…. I agree with you. All these unfortunate deaths of people is just horrible. And I find it sick that their bodies are just left for others to find. There is no doubt in my mind that Melinda did something to Trenton. And it makes me so mad that she went to the grave with this secret. She was such a coward and selfish that she had to kill herself so that no one else would ever know what happed to Trenton. Ahhhhhh Don’t get me started. I’ve been good.
October 9th, 2006 at 4:01 pm
I still don’t know whick theory I agree with more. She pulled a Susan Smith and then backed out until she knew she couldn’t get away with it or it was premeditated and then she offed herself because she knew she couldn’t get away with it.
October 9th, 2006 at 4:04 pm
leesburg I think you are right and I would love to find a reason to be wrong about it.
I feel she probably did something to him and I so dont want to believe that a mother could do that.
I just think that someone would have come forward after she killed herself. I doubt they would have been in much trouble then if Melinda left him with someone for safekeeping. But the longer this goes on the worst it is going to get if someone does have Trenton.
October 9th, 2006 at 4:06 pm
I definitely think it was premeditated. MD wanted not only to hurt Josh, but she also wanted to gain sympathy and then go on with her life without Trenton to tie her down. Just my opinion though.
October 9th, 2006 at 4:10 pm
It would make sense it was premeditated. MD seemed like she was a very proud person. She even stated in one of her blogs that she was trying to stay in the middle class of society. You can’t do that if you’re jobles and filing for state’s assistance- Not that there is anything wrong with it, that’s what it is there for. But I wonder how she felt about it. If she didn’t have Trenton….
October 9th, 2006 at 4:10 pm
I am from Cincinnati & found out about Trenton from looking up Marcus Fiesel, he is a 3 yo boy that “disappeared” from a park in early August. It was discovered on 8/28 that on 8/4 his foster parents wrapped him in a blanket, strapped him w/tape & left him in a closet on one of our hottest weekends, when they returned home, he had passed. They burned his body to hid the evidence and then concocted the whole park story. I pray to God that Trenton will be found alive, and thank god that if he’s not, Melinda’s already paid, as poor Marcus’ killers will only get jail time and not real punishment.
October 9th, 2006 at 4:11 pm
I find it hard to believe she pulled the perfect crime . There has got to be some clues somewhere.
NG is covering it tonight. Maybe she will have some new info. Details are so slow coming out from LE. I cant believe they still dont have lab results back from her car, computer etc.
October 9th, 2006 at 4:13 pm
Marcus Fiesel sure fell thru the cracks too and his birth mom is suing? Like she deserves anything.
October 9th, 2006 at 4:15 pm
me too, ghfan. I know this isn’t CSI Miami, but darn!! How long does it take?!
October 9th, 2006 at 4:17 pm
I think they just aren’t releasing much of what they have to the public yet. Why is the question… what are they waiting on?
October 9th, 2006 at 4:17 pm
I would love to slap MF’s mom’s teeth down her throat! This crap wouldn’t have happened had she taekn care of the autistic son she gave birth to. She didn’t want the responsibility, either.
October 9th, 2006 at 4:20 pm
I just feel like LE has not laid all their cards on the table. They’re holding back info and maybe we’re not supposed to know the method to their madness. They probably have the results by now of the lab results and the computer etc., but they are not sharing that info with us.
October 9th, 2006 at 4:21 pm
Of course they’re not. They never do. Have they not found anything to lead them to Trenton? That’s what I’m waiting on
October 9th, 2006 at 4:24 pm
The world just isnt safe for kids any more.
The welfare systems let them down.
Parents dont want them they just throw them away.
Then, someone comes in the home where they are supposed to be safe and steals them right out of their bed.
Why are the prey on little innosent children?
When will it stop?
October 9th, 2006 at 4:27 pm
I’m tired of it, too, ghfan. If they would let the parents of the murdered children torture and kill the killers I bet it wouldn’t happen near as often
October 9th, 2006 at 4:28 pm
I now ghfan, it’s sad and it scares the hell outta me.
October 9th, 2006 at 4:30 pm
I’m just wondering if the search for Trenton wasn’t allowed by more than 6 people because of the other poor dead bodies that they were looking for and had been reported missing in and around the same area since LE stated that they didn’t want any crime scene botched.
October 9th, 2006 at 4:33 pm
I know this probably doesn’t mean snit, but the news made a point to point out that she left her 50Cent CD on the front seat of her car. Who cares waht CD she left laying out
October 9th, 2006 at 4:35 pm
Its strange that they dont seem to really want public searches. I would think that with limited resources they would accept all the help they could get.
Tim Miller offered his assistance and I dont understand why they dont let his team come in and help.
October 9th, 2006 at 4:36 pm
Wasn’t there also mention of a diary (other than the computer writings) that MD possibly had written in? Has Cara ever stated if she knew of MD’s diary?
October 9th, 2006 at 4:36 pm
you’re right, sweetpea. But since their scaling back on the searches, why would they care if people volunteered?
October 9th, 2006 at 4:37 pm
none of this makes any since ghfan. That what makes me think they are hidding something. but what and why?
October 9th, 2006 at 4:39 pm
if it were my child I would want anybody and everybody to help as much as they could.
Period!!! The more people looking the more chance to find him I would think.
October 9th, 2006 at 4:39 pm
Waiting to get enought evidence to nail an accomplice?
October 9th, 2006 at 4:40 pm
Yeah, the volunteer situation makes no sense. Everyone knows not to touch a crime scene and besides…if TD is not alive…how much crime scene would be left. Many people are wanting to volunteer and go into areas (and they wouldn’t touch a crime scene) but for some reason LE won’t let them.
October 9th, 2006 at 4:42 pm
LE usually, as we all know, doesn’t release info because they need something to hold onto to charge someone with. (I know it doesn’t make sense when I type it) when they have a suspect they want the suspect to admit something that wasn’t previously released to the public. There was mention of an accomplice involved. I hope this made sense
October 9th, 2006 at 4:43 pm
could be ghfan, but they need to get with it, if they know something. This little boy needs to get home.
October 9th, 2006 at 4:44 pm
sorry, ghfan. we seem to be on the same train of thought
October 9th, 2006 at 4:45 pm
I think your right catsmom. makes sense to me. but they need to get on the ball with it already.
October 9th, 2006 at 4:47 pm
It would at the very least be nice to know if LE thought people should be looking for a living Trenton or a deceased one. And since LE hasn’t said they believe he’s alive…it just makes me think he’s not.
October 9th, 2006 at 4:48 pm
I agree, km. It’s not like they have everyone from this blog working on the case. I could understand why it would take a long time if that were the case. They are experienced(ha ha)LE. What’s the hold up
October 9th, 2006 at 4:49 pm
well sweetpea, I think it’s a very slim chance his still alive. But it doesn’t hurt to still pray for a miracle
October 9th, 2006 at 4:52 pm
sweetpea, I thought that’s why they changed the number where people should call the tips in to. That was my assumption. And because they were searching lakes and woods.
October 9th, 2006 at 4:52 pm
It concerns me about the blood on Trentons top sheet and in Melindas car. It wasnt enough to call it a crime scene but it makes
me suspicious esp since it was found both places.
If he had a brain hemorrhage maybe there just wasnt much blood.
I believe something happened that evening. She was too busy driving around on Sunday to do painting. I think she did that sometime in the middle of Sat night.
October 9th, 2006 at 4:52 pm
km,
Oh that’s for sure. Now it seems it will be a miracle if he’s found at all. I just don’t think a mother would off herself while her son is missing. She buried him somewhere. Have her friends said all of the places that she liked to take Trenton?
October 9th, 2006 at 4:54 pm
I sometimes think that maybe she buried him close to JD’s house. Talking about having the last word.
October 9th, 2006 at 4:55 pm
Her friends dont seem to be much help at all which is strange.
Josh on NG.
J. DUCKETT: … I`ve tried to reach out to her side of the family and get them to join forces with us and all work together, because we`re supposed to be working for the same cause, but I`ve gotten no response from any of her family at all or any of her friends.
October 9th, 2006 at 4:57 pm
catsmom #87…I agree! If someone hurt my child, they better hope and pray that the police get them before I do…cause as far as I am concerned, they lost all rights when they hurt my child….and death is too easy a sentence!
October 9th, 2006 at 4:58 pm
I left blog #109…forgot to put in my name and it defaulted to anonymous…just wanted to mention that in case someone was really using ‘anonymous’.
October 9th, 2006 at 4:59 pm
Catsmom,
That is so very true! I mean if you were going to try and set someone up to make them really look guilty….then you’d bury the body somewhere that Josh goes to often.
October 9th, 2006 at 5:00 pm
You know catsmom, I never thought of that but you could be right… that would be something she would do. she seems to always have the last word.
October 9th, 2006 at 5:03 pm
Looking at the map of Lake Harris and watching Melindas 3 pt interview from Venetians garden I think there is alot of area there that should be searched and that is certainly where Tim Millers team could be of great help. what prompted her to go there and why was she glancing around and acting so nervous?
October 9th, 2006 at 5:04 pm
Has anyone read anything on the myspace blogs about where Josh liked to hang out? I know he liked Motocross, right? And he liked to jet ski….anybody know where?
October 9th, 2006 at 5:05 pm
Have they searched near JD’s? He also rode dirtbikes? Right? I wonder where. We all know you don’t ride them on the highway, It’s usually a trail near no businesses, major roads, etc.
October 9th, 2006 at 5:06 pm
and it still makes no sence the gp hasn’t helped josh by now.
October 9th, 2006 at 5:06 pm
great mids think alike, km & ghfan!
October 9th, 2006 at 5:06 pm
minds*
October 9th, 2006 at 5:10 pm
Md’s gps might suspect that she did something to TD. I’m not convinced they didn’t see her display anger/annoyance towards TD. Maybe they don’t want to deal with another funeral. out of sight, out of mind
October 9th, 2006 at 5:12 pm
I’m a little curious about those who feel that MD murdered TD then committed suicide out of guilt. I think it would make more sense that if something happened to TD ie left in car in heat, or fell & struck his head, etc. that she would kill herself out of guilt. I find it hard to believe that she would premeditate a murder of her own son & then kill herself? Most cold blooded murderers don’t kill themselves. Also, I’m not sure about the DSF info as I used to be involved in that area & have seen & read some pretty horrific stuff. Neither MD or JD appeared to have done anything other than accuse each other, etc. There has been no history of the numberouse hospital visits with TD, etc. that you usually see in child abuse cases so I don’t think that he was physically abused but used as a pawn in the back & forth fighting in their relationship. Anyway, IMO if she does know what happened to TD then we might just never know & that is what bothers me the most about this whole situation.
October 9th, 2006 at 5:14 pm
I’m sure the gp are learning a lot now that md is gone. She wasn’t the mother she apeared to be around them. md had a lot of secrets.
October 9th, 2006 at 5:15 pm
My point is this: Eveyone who knows me knows that if one of my children were’abducted’ I would be frantic, awake day and night, banging on everyone’s doors within a 25 mile radius of me, hunting down all sex offenders that are registered in my area and on a low dose of tranquilizers just to remain half sane. But I gurantee no one would ask me if I was involved!!! Not like MD’s ‘Poppy’ asked her
October 9th, 2006 at 5:17 pm
I agree with you blog… we may never know. But I sure hope that we do someday and soon.
I think we have came to love this sweet helpless boy and it’s hurts to much to not ever know.
October 9th, 2006 at 5:17 pm
catsmom - I heard that also about her grandfather asking her but I only heard it as a rumor. It that reported anywhere?
October 9th, 2006 at 5:19 pm
AMEN TO THAT CATSMOM. ME TOO! they have better hope the police find them first, becasue I would go to jail for murder if someone hurt my child or grandchild.
October 9th, 2006 at 5:21 pm
I can tolerate a lot of things but someone hurting my babies isn’t one of them.
That’s for damn sure!
October 9th, 2006 at 5:22 pm
BA thats why Im leaning to something happening after she got home from GP that caused her to lose her temper and strike him or throw him on the bed or up against the wall. She was a neat freak, had been working trying to fix up her aptment and maybe Trenton made a big mess and she went off and lost it. Or she got busy doing something to accommodate her OCD about her aptment and he got into something and got hurt bad or took something he shouldnt have because she wasnt watching him.
She thought she wasnt paying enough attention to him and would still be a bad mommy in her suicide note.
Gosh, I dont even want to accept premeditated. That would make her a monster instead of a screwed up in the head person.
I think her and Josh were both immature and both liked to head trip ea other. Trenton shouldnt have been with either one of them. imo.
October 9th, 2006 at 5:23 pm
I read that somewhere about the grandfather saying that but dont remember where. would have to look for it….. which Im sure catsmom is doing right now.. lol
October 9th, 2006 at 5:24 pm
here it is, blog artist
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14864290/site/newsweek/page/3/
October 9th, 2006 at 5:24 pm
We all know what we think we would do when something happens to us, however it is not always what we think. Speaking from personal experience I have had several examples in my long life of things that have happened where I thought I knew what I would do, but then was surprised that what I thought I would do was opposite due to circumstances that are diff in every situation. What I’m saying is that we often project what we think we would do in certain situations based on the ‘norm’. But, when they actually happen to you, you often times are surprised at your own reaction to those same situations.
October 9th, 2006 at 5:29 pm
catsmom - Yes I read that, he asked her is ’she knew where TD was’. Most people have been posting that the asked her if she did anything to him. To me thats a big diff & with all the back & forth between them & custody, etc. I might be inclined to thing that it would be a legitimate question for him to ask her. Especially with all the media, etc. saying that she did something to or with him.
October 9th, 2006 at 5:32 pm
I think you are right on target ghfan, that’s my theory too. If MD killed him I think it was an accident and then she tried to cover it up. And what better way than try to blame Josh. But I still can’t believe she would be smart enough to hide his little body where it cant ever be found. And if she was a neat freak like they are saying, and with a 2 year old. Hello…. That’s an age they are into everything. Some of my family use to say I was a neat freak but after my grandson was born, that was the end of that. Now Im lucky if I can just straighten up when he’s around. I’m no longer so picky. But he’s worth it. I don’t mind anymore.
October 9th, 2006 at 5:33 pm
good job catsmom
October 9th, 2006 at 5:34 pm
GOOD JOB CATSMOM!! I knew you would find it….
October 9th, 2006 at 5:34 pm
when it comes to my children, I can become psycho - that’s known as a fact where I live.
I know what I would do - not just hypothetically speaking. I was hurt in almost every way possible as a child, I know what I would do if something happened to one of my children. I guarantee I wouldn’t just roll over and die. But not everyone is the same, I understand that
October 9th, 2006 at 5:36 pm
hello…. can you read me now?
October 9th, 2006 at 5:38 pm
km - yes, except I am still having a big problem with that email. MD was computer literate enough to know that emails can easily be traced back to the computer they came from. I’m still stuck on why she would bring that up, to the police, right after he was reported missing? Surely she knew that they would investigate that email? I also know that she had friends in her house when she wasn’t there who had access to her computer. There is a post she made specifically saying this. Is it too diff to imagine that maybe, somebody else wrote that email thinking that they would be helping her out in the custody, etc.? Or, her & JD had mutual friends, etc. She also has postings where it is fairly obvious that at least 2 of her boyfriends had keys to her apt. I think the news report a while ago that there could be another person involved here is still valid.
October 9th, 2006 at 5:38 pm
ty km
October 9th, 2006 at 5:39 pm
WHAT HAPPENED? having a hard time posting now….???
October 9th, 2006 at 5:40 pm
Did she ever demand JD to give him back or did she ever ask JD what the heck he did with TD? If she truly thought JD did something with TD wouldn’t she ask him these things? Regardless of the injunction
October 9th, 2006 at 5:43 pm
km - I see your posts. If you are having trouble posting it might be because you aren’t registered? If you register, then you won’t get spammed.
October 9th, 2006 at 5:46 pm
No I don’t think she was grasping at straws when she wondered if Trenton was Josh’s, as Melinda had cheated on Josh according to the Report with DCF. So of course one would wonder. Then she gave a BJ to a cop so it sounded as if Melinda was a bit loose. Even if there was a chance that Tenton was someone else’s baby… Melinda would not have wanted that to come out for she would have NO control over Josh and she needed that, at least that much is obvious that she needed control over Josh and she did to some degree have control over Josh.
October 9th, 2006 at 5:47 pm
I seem to be ok now…. that was strage…. i kept being asked to type #’s and letters then it would say my posting was accepted…. whats up with that??? never did that before on the other sof..???
October 9th, 2006 at 5:47 pm
Montana - there is a news report on TD early on questioning paternity. Does anybody have the link to that?
October 9th, 2006 at 5:49 pm
how do you register bolg? never had to before. or I guess I should say it never asked me too before…… I tried to post 3 diff. times and it would make me type in crap then say APROVED. HUMMMM
October 9th, 2006 at 5:50 pm
I never heard that blog…. I would like to see that one myself.
October 9th, 2006 at 5:50 pm
I believe Josh had filed for paternity test back in 2004? I saw it somewhere but can’t remember where. Anybody?
October 9th, 2006 at 5:52 pm
km - go down to the bottom of this page where is says ‘login’, click on that & it will take you to the page to register.
October 9th, 2006 at 5:53 pm
but what was the results of the DNA? I know my daughter had an DNA on my grandson because, well… lets just say dad’s a bit of a jerk. anyway, I read it and it said 99.9% so in other words he was the father. so did TD’s say differently?
October 9th, 2006 at 5:55 pm
thanks blog… will do that now.
October 9th, 2006 at 5:57 pm
JD filed paternity 4/8/5. Here is the link where I read it 1st but am still looking for the report that I found it in.
http://shadowraiths.net/?p=85
October 9th, 2006 at 5:57 pm
Well if she slept with another guy in HS and ended up pg I hope Josh did demand a paternity test.
October 9th, 2006 at 5:58 pm
Sorry, forgot to mention that he dropped said paternity suit.
October 9th, 2006 at 6:00 pm
Im registered and when I log in my post goes poof but when I log out it goes thru.
just logged in and tried it again. Poof.
After melinda slept with another guy in HS and she ends up preggers Josh woulde be a fool to not get a paternity test.
October 9th, 2006 at 6:00 pm
Sorry not DCF report but the newspaper report.
October 9th, 2006 at 6:01 pm
ok blog…. I guess Im leagl now…. lol
October 9th, 2006 at 6:02 pm
No? I didn’t know Josh was questioning it?
October 9th, 2006 at 6:03 pm
Wow you guys are good. You find out all kinds of stuff.
I wonder what DCF did with the tape recording of Melinda’s threats that Josh swears he gave to DCF who said they don’t have it?
October 9th, 2006 at 6:05 pm
so he dropped it? thats strage….. you would think he would want to know 99.9% if he was to pay child suport. wouldnt you?
I mean its no big deal to have one done now. didnt cost my daughter anything. and she knew but she didnt want the dad to question it later I guess. so he knows his 99.9% now. lol
October 9th, 2006 at 6:08 pm
Montana - here is link to chronology of Duckett case from DSF where it mentions the paternity.
http://www.wftv.com/download/2006/0928/9954084.pdf#search=%22josh%20duckett%20paternity%22
October 9th, 2006 at 6:10 pm
Ok, I have to say something about the post about that there were no hospital reports of abuse. My Step Father beat my sister and I so bad but you could hardly ever see a bruise. I don’t know why but most of the time if we got punched in the stomach or head you could not see a bruise. Only once my sister ended up at the hospital but no one was suspicious back then. My step father just said she got hit in the stomache with a baseball bat.
As far as Melinda killing Trenton was it an accident? I am not sure, considering Melinda said that “if you don’t know what I mean you will read it in the paper” I think that was in reference to hurting Trenton. In one of her poems it said my threats will come true. so I am not sure.
October 9th, 2006 at 6:10 pm
He signed off on paternity which means, he legally stated that he is the father without testing. Also, DCF says they ‘lost’ the tapes, however practice is to transcribe said tapes, in writing so I think they might have just screwed up twice here.
October 9th, 2006 at 6:15 pm
OMG Mantana, I am so sorry to hear about you childhood abuse. God bless you!
…but where did you read melinda sid “if you dont know what I mean you will resad it in the paper” I guess I missed that too.
October 9th, 2006 at 6:16 pm
thats crazy josh would drop the paternity after he already new of her with another guy.
October 9th, 2006 at 6:19 pm
Montana - I agree but am very hesitant to ‘read into’ anything in this case. If we are prepared to do this then we have to do it both ways. There were so many people over a 2 year period that had custody & looked after this child - grandparents & greatgradparents, daycare, father, 2 of her friends that we know of, foster care (who by the way didn’t get his perscription filled when he had pneumonia), visits from social workers, others connected to the courts, etc. All I’m saying is that nobody saw anything physical, emotional, behavioural, etc that indicated he was being abused. So, I’m hesitant here to say that he was for a fact abused. As far as saying, well that’s all he knew I agree but there are usually some signs.
October 9th, 2006 at 6:21 pm
Does anyone think this will end up being an unsolved case?
October 9th, 2006 at 6:23 pm
ghfan - yes, very much so. Even if they do find TD out there, unless there is some evidence with the remains that categorically leads them elsewhere, they will close this investigation. But, it would not be the first time.
October 9th, 2006 at 6:23 pm
I pray not ghfan, but its possible.
October 9th, 2006 at 6:26 pm
your right we may never know the whole truth what happened to him even if they find his poor little body.
…not likely but if they find him alive then we would eventually now.
October 9th, 2006 at 6:29 pm
Im still praying he’s alive with someone somewhere. but the more time goes by, I know its most likely doubtful he is. ;(
October 9th, 2006 at 6:31 pm
Speaking about the Grandfather asking Melinda if she knew where Trenton was. That is odd to me. If my Grandson was kidnapped I would never think to ask my children if they knew where the baby was. Unless of course my suspicions were raised. That is odd to me. Not if in my heart would not see any reason to ask my children such a question. I think deep in the Grandparents heart they KNEW. I know they felt suspicious also other wise they would have never asked such a question. I hear a great deal about how Josh was also bad to Melinda and I have not read anything that states that Josh started these fights. Yes he was young, immature and so on…but other than that I don’t see any abuse. There is no mention of Melinda calling DCF on Josh is there that I missed somewhere? It also admitted that friends and family knew of Melinda’s anger problems. I would say that it stands to reason that someone with anger problems should not have a gun? And I think it is pretty sick that the Grandfather said that Josh put that bullet in that gun. Shame on him. That is what is wrong with this world lets blame it on everybody else but not put the blame where it belongs. With Melinda, and who’s gun was it anyway? Why did they let Melinda know where it was? Were they not aware of her being baker acted and that in 2004 she wrote a suicide note? Maybe they did not know…but shame on them for saying that. When my kids did something wrong I always held them accountable.
October 9th, 2006 at 6:32 pm
Hi all
just in case you don’t know,
I heard that they area going to talk
about the search for trenton on Nancy
grace tonight.
October 9th, 2006 at 6:34 pm
Well true no evidence of bruses mentioned. But all my kids had bruises from just being kids. But how did Melinda get him to scream in the phone where other people heard it if Melinda wasn’t abusing him? You can pull someones hair and not leave a bruise. I just don’t buy it that she didn’t abuse him. He was abused. She made him scream a few times on the phone that others heard and if you don’t call that abuse then we have a problem
October 9th, 2006 at 6:36 pm
have they searched venetian park yet,
or that island called “long Island”
in the parks lake?
I haven’t been keeping current and
just was checking to see if
they had searched that area yet.
can’t seem to find any mention of it.
anybody know?
October 9th, 2006 at 6:37 pm
Sometimes the only thing you have is the facts and you put them all together. Thats not reading into anything. just put it all together and don’t nit pic tiny things for someother answer than what it is, that is reading into something.
No offense just my own agravation for what is a quacking duck that some people still want to beieve it could be a frog.
October 9th, 2006 at 6:39 pm
Oh and I forgot to mention that emotional abuse leaves no bruises. Either way the kid was abused.
October 9th, 2006 at 6:43 pm
At this point, it is so obvious that
Melinda is responsible for the
baby’s disappearance, evidenced
by the voice stress test she couldn’t pass and the refusal to take a polygraph even
before her lawyer advised her not to,
that argument otherwise is futile.
The only mystery is where the body is,
and that mystery gets more difficult
to solve as time passes.
The police really were kind of lame
in this case. They should have searched
other places earlier in the investigation.
They went on a wild goose chase instead.
October 9th, 2006 at 6:43 pm
Montana - I find it interesting that you would say that MD didn’t call DCF about anything against Josh. You have to remember that they got involved thru allegations from JD’s side. You would think if she was so calculating, controlling, manipulative, etc. including the email that she would have made allegations herself? But she didn’t other than being concerned that Trenton was around someone using drugs & even then she didn’t call DCF but ‘mentioned’ it to the social worker who in turn discovered the conviction. There is obviously more to this than we know.
October 9th, 2006 at 6:45 pm
We also have to remember who had her baker acted in 2004 - a police chief? And, that they let her go way before the holding period was up reporting that there was no reason to do so in the 1st place.
October 9th, 2006 at 6:50 pm
Screwed up? No, more like get rid of them! Sounds to me like they got rid of it on purpose. I am sure if the public got a hold of that tape then they would be in trouble. I think they were fooled by Melinda her manuipulative ways and because she was cute. Did you ever see that test where they had two mock trial’s where they had one person on trial for a murder with the same evidence and the same everything only one person was ugly and then the other person tried for the same thing with the same evidence and that person was beautiful? The ugly one they said “guilty” the attractive one was “not guilty” And thats our justice system for you.
Blog Artist Says:
Also, DCF says they ‘lost’ the tapes, however practice is to transcribe said tapes, in writing so I think they might have just screwed up twice here.
October 9th, 2006 at 6:50 pm
RE: #177
that wouldn’t be the first time
childrens protective services made a mistake.
I know “crazy” people who can sound
very sane when they have to. Especially
when they get caught.
All of a sudden they are very calm
and rational. hence the expression
“crazy like a fox”.
October 9th, 2006 at 6:53 pm
178
that is so interesting about that test.
I always said the reason everyone
was so interested in this case was
because of the physical attractiveness
of Melinda and trenton.
That was true with Laci & Scott
Peterson as well.
October 9th, 2006 at 6:55 pm
I don’t mind being ignored,
but
does anyone know if they searched
venetian park yet?
October 9th, 2006 at 6:57 pm
Montana - exactly my point regarding the justice system & how people in general react when the media, etc. jump on the band wagon & start to speculate, etc. Everybody disregards all those things that may point in another direction & focus on those that don’t. It is kind of a mob mentality. If you do further research on ‘women on women’ when it comes to a cute person vs a not so cute person it works the other way though. But yes you made my point for me.
October 9th, 2006 at 7:00 pm
Hey Doe - yes they searched an area there but found nothing. Re the stress test yes but I can’t help think that she would be stressed in just such a situation. It is also not uncommon for a person who is always concerned about passing a test that she would fail this one. In one of her psycological exams, the physcologist said that the results on tests would be skewed due to her need to not fail any kind of test.
October 9th, 2006 at 7:03 pm
Well You are intitled to your opinion and I totally disagree with you. Melinda wasn’t stupid. I have been in my own divorce case and my x husband called DCYF all the time. Everyone knows who has been in a nasty divorce and custody battle that usually the one who is disgruntled is the one who calls DCf. That is the one who usually calls DCF is the one that doesn’t have custody, but remember there must have been some truth to it because Melinda lost custody for awhile. Melinda was smarter than you give her credit for. The problem is this Other people and NOT just the so called friend that happened to be the Police C, heard Melinda on the phone making Trenton scream. And maybe if that tape was around you might start to see for yourself, but conveniently it has Vanished. Also where is that that said that they were friends Carla and the Police C? I still cant find that. Also in that same paper work from when she was baker acted didn’t it say that she failed the personality test or some test and the reason they said is because melinda was trying to make herself better than what she was so the test couldn’t even be counted because Melinda was not honest.
October 9th, 2006 at 7:04 pm
thanks blog, but did they search
the area around long island?
also
let me just say that if I ever commit
a crime, i want you on the jury.
I have never seen anyone so
devoted to finding someone innocent.
October 9th, 2006 at 7:06 pm
I can’t help here but think about the case of David Dowliby - does anybody remember that case? The child was taken out of the window & murdered? He was tried convicted & then exonerated. They tore that family’s private life apart & he was convicted on that instead of the police doing a proper investigation. These things have happened in the past so I’m just being a bit of a sceptic & trying to look at both sides here.
October 9th, 2006 at 7:08 pm
a stress test isn’t a test that you
necessarily know
you are taking. They just record your
voice as you are asked questions, so
she wouldn’t really be anxious about
being tested.
October 9th, 2006 at 7:09 pm
Well remember the case of that kid that killed his two cousins? He was put into a mental institution, and while he escaped he killed another kid. And guess what? They let him out of the mental institution because they did not think that there was “reason to hold him ” any longer and he murdered and mutilated another boy, so your theory that a mental institution said it was ok to release Melinda because they thought there was no reason to hold her does not prove she was alright.
October 9th, 2006 at 7:09 pm
also, they said she passed when they
asked her about sunday, but not
when they asked her about saturday
after she left her grandparents.
October 9th, 2006 at 7:11 pm
I think that was in the DCF papers that Melinda said “you will see it in the papers” I will look thou.
October 9th, 2006 at 7:12 pm
#188
they let people out of mental institutions
all the time who are not capable of taking
care of themself let alone a child.
our streets are full of them.
October 9th, 2006 at 7:14 pm
Yeah just like the OJ case. “if it doesn’t fit you must ” oops sp… Everyone should know by now that a leather glove shrinks when it is wet or better yet soaked with blood.
October 9th, 2006 at 7:15 pm
OJ was the perfect example of
getting away with murder
October 9th, 2006 at 7:16 pm
#137
I think it’s unrealistic to think her one of her friends went behind her back, and wrote that email to Josh, and that she could have been completely clueless to the whole thing. How many felonies do you commit for your friends? JMO
October 9th, 2006 at 7:18 pm
#194
of course. Why would anybody even
do that. what motive.
melinda was the only one with a motive.
c’mon.
October 9th, 2006 at 7:18 pm
Montana - It was an overheard conversation & not a tape. Here is the link. Half way down the page it refers to police chief being a close family friend.
.http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/lake/orl-duckett0806oct08,0,5974288.story?page=3&track=rss
And, MD’s response to ‘ending it all’ she said that she meant the relationship, not her life.
There is also another news report referring to Wells as a friend of Carla Massano.
October 9th, 2006 at 7:19 pm
I understand your bottom post and God Bless you. But this case that you mentioned are few and far in between. There is always that possibilty but the fact remains that Melinda killed herself, she left no note for trenton but did leave one for the public, I think that speaks volumes. She mentions when “trenton grows” so why did she not leave a note for trenton telling him so? Common sense because he is not with us any longer.
I can’t help here but think about the case of David Dowliby - does anybody remember that case? The child was taken out of the window & murdered? He was tried convicted & then exonerated. They tore that family’s private life apart & he was convicted on that instead of the police doing a proper investigation. These things have happened in the past so I’m just being a bit of a sceptic & trying to look at both sides here
October 9th, 2006 at 7:20 pm
the doe - I’m not saying she is innocent here, I’m looking at all facets & have not yet been convinced either way.
October 9th, 2006 at 7:21 pm
and the baby was only missing one week
when she killed herself.
That alone is a give away.
Any mother knows it would
have to be a lot more time before
you lose hope of finding your
child. A week is not that long.
October 9th, 2006 at 7:21 pm
And, MD’s response to ‘ending it all’ she said that she meant the relationship, not her life.
THAT was Melindas answer to what she said what can you expect her to say? She did leave a suicide note in 2004 remember?
October 9th, 2006 at 7:21 pm
Montana - yes please find for me.
October 9th, 2006 at 7:22 pm
#198
I know blog, that’s why i would want
you on my jury for sure.
You are the ultimate open minded
juror.
October 9th, 2006 at 7:23 pm
Come on you guys. If MD killed her child (which I am finding it hard to believe as I am a mother) then she would have put him in a dumpster that goes to the incenerater. This would have been the best way to get rid of him and they would never find him and she would always have to upper hand.
October 9th, 2006 at 7:29 pm
Thanks and if that is the tape or recorded converation that would be the reason it is now missing.
I was also talking about a friend of Josh’s who went to the police station and told the police that he heard Melinda making the baby scream if Josh did not come over. I don’t know if that one was recorded.
If PC Wells recorded the conversation and now it is what you want to use Melinda’s explantion don’t you find it odd that, that very tape is NOW MISSING? In other words Melinda could say anything, but where is the tape?
October 9th, 2006 at 7:29 pm
melinda got in over her head.
however it happened, whether pre-meditated,
which I doubt,
or a cover up for an accident, she
really wasn’t equipped to deal with it.
her suicide note to her grandparents
pretty much says that.
We just have to read Melindas poems
and suicide notes to know what happened.
When you watch that 3 part interview,
you can see it written all over her face
and the fact that her words
make absolutely no sense at all.
October 9th, 2006 at 7:30 pm
Montana - maybe she did leave one for Trenton. Remember that they have not yet released everything. There are other writings that they refer to that we know nothing about.
October 9th, 2006 at 7:30 pm
Did anyone ever think there might be another alternative besides just premeditated murder/accident? Here is how I see it. She had a long history of mental unstability. She had a will made, when she had virtually nothing to her estate. She cleaned items out of her house both before/afterwards when Trent was reported missing, which many people do when they are planning a suicide. Plus she was a neat freak. She has many unaccounted hours where it is assumed she was driving around. I am thinking it was always supposed to be a filicide/suicide plan and she chickened out. Drove around with his body for hours with her shotgun debating killing herself, but she couldn’t bring herself to do it. She hides his body, and points the finger at Josh hoping they would suspect him and not her. Then Nancy Grace, and all the media attention, and she realized the focus wasn’t going to come off her. She was going to be pushed and interrogated until she was worn down. So she kills herself. I know other people on other boards who believe this too. I also believe she hid his body in Venetian Gardens. It’s a well documented fact that killers often go back to the place where the body is, especially if there is remorse/regret. There was that impromptu interview where they found her in that park and she was acting very, very strange. Looking off into this one spot over and over again, and then the closing of the eyes through almost the whole interview. That park also had signifigance in Trenton’s life. They went there weekly, and it was his favorite park. He loved the ducks. Parent’s who kill their children often hide the body in a spot of signifigance to the child. It just makes sense to me. She planned to kill Trenton, and kill herself so that Josh wouldn’t have Trenton. Proprietory interest…If I can’t have you, no one can. Ask any abuse victim about proprietory interest and they will tell you what it’s about. Trenton was her PROPERTY. He belonged to HER in her mind. Even her best friend when asked to describe her as a mother, didn’t refer to her as loving, but “possessive” which goes right along with filicide/suicide with spousal revenge as the motivating factor. JMO
October 9th, 2006 at 7:32 pm
#163
Maybe he wasn’t physically abused…but he was definitely emotionally abused. And abuse is abuse. It’s all equally detrimental to a child.
October 9th, 2006 at 7:33 pm
The worst part of it all is this sort
of thing happens everyday of the year
even worse than in this case.
Some child is killed, discarded at
birth, sexually abused, starved,
raped, kept tied in a closet, all over
THIS country. It’s a systemic problem.
October 9th, 2006 at 7:33 pm
the doe - I would luv to but we all know that you are one of the most kind hearted person. How is that webpage coming? I have my pic ready for you but it still needs some (a lot) of air brushing 1st! lol
October 9th, 2006 at 7:34 pm
Whatever happened to Trenton, just in my opinion, is that he left this earth Saturday evening by the hands of Melinda. She immediately blames Josh in the phone call to LE after knowing that SHE tried to set him up by the email. Her grandfather sits her down, holds her hands and says, “Look into my eyes…do you know where Trenton is?” Grandparents don’t ask that question if they truly believe you had nothing to do with it. She goes to myspace while Trenton is missing and chats stating that she wishes things would go back to the way they were…nice and busy with work. Are you kidding??? Her child is gone…and that was on 9-6. She doesn’t say, “I’m losing my mind…I’m trying to find my child.” Then she offs herself leaving everyone a note…except her son…who by the way was supposed to be her essence. To me….it’s simple….she killed Trenton.
October 9th, 2006 at 7:34 pm
Montana
Furious, Josh told Bushnell’s police chief, Joyce Wells, a family friend. He called Melinda in front of Wells and put their conversation on speaker
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/florida/orl-duckett0806oct08,0,3233407.story?page=1&coll=sfla-news-florida
From teen sweethearts to bitter foes
This article is well worth the read. It was just posted a couple of days ago.
October 9th, 2006 at 7:36 pm
207
That is a very likely scenario as well.
like I said, she got in over her head.
October 9th, 2006 at 7:39 pm
hi blog,
I have been so crazy busy I haven’t had
a chance to start it.