A couple years ago, the Tampa Bay Lightning worked with the State of Florida to get a $60,000,000 rebate on sales tax. They get $2Mil each year for 30 years, as do most, if not all of the professional sports teams in Florida.
Apparently, 60M is not nearly enough.
Along with all the other professional sports teams in Florida, the Lightning want another $60 Million. They think you forgot about the first break. And apparently some have.
Sen. Mike Fasano, R-New Port Richey, is drafting the bill and points to provisions that require any franchise, should it leave Florida within 15 years, to agree to reimburse the state for future payments the venue would receive.
“I wanted to make sure that if we’re going to dish out money for economic development, whether it’s for Home Depot, the Lightning or the Marlins, that those tax dollars are spent responsibly,” Fasano said.
“This is a taxpayer security measure as much as it is an economic development measure,” said Rep. Trey Traviesa, R-Tampa, who plans to sponsor a bill in the House.
They are not the only two. New Gov Charlie Crist can’t wait to give away your tax money either:
Gov. Charlie Crist recently said he supports helping the Marlins, noting that sports venues benefit not only owners but the people who sell hotdogs and parking.
Don’t forget that there are nine (NINE!) pro sports venues that could possibly qualify for this break. That comes to $540 MILLION more in sales taxes. Hey Charlie, don’t you think that $540 Million Dollars could help shore up the insurance problem? Could you use that to help with education funding? Or at least finally have the state pay for those state-mandated, but local-government-funded US Flags?
On the other hand Charlie did just say that “It’s time to return tax dollars to the people.” And you thought he meant people like you.
Maybe we’re being too harsh. I mean, Floridians love their sports. Let’s take a closer look.
According to the article, the local hockey arena brings in about $7M/year in sales taxes. It is not clear if this is total tax revenue or net of the original $2M giveaway. Let’s give the team the benefit of the doubt, and assume the figure is net of the original. Now, should we pay $4M to gain $5M? If the team was not here, would people spend their money on other things to get the $5M?
Let’s look at it another way, and we’ll give the team the benefit of the doubt AGAIN by using the $7M as a gross figure. If they are bringing in $7M in taxes, that means they have over $100M in revenue from sales in the arena. A good corporate citizen would want to pay their fair share, wouldn’t they?
I say we have been generous enough with the first $60M. And we did not even bring up the additional parking revenues they want from the city (by the way, since the city lowered parking rates in January, I wonder if they’ve seen an increase in customers).
The lighting (nor the bucs, the rays, the marlins, the panthers, the jaguars, the dolphins, etc.) do not need additional breaks. Let ‘em leave. See if anyone else wants them.
Palmball
3 years ago
Well that’s just the thing. Someone else will want them. If a city is committed to the higher profile, image and economic benefits (whatever they may be) that pro sports bring, this is how the game is played. Another community is always ready to welcome a franchise with open arms.
jason
3 years ago
we have a hockey team still?
dcdave
3 years ago
hockey is a sport? i guess if you watch the Vs. network. or even get it at all. i don’t think pro hockey teams bring much prestige at all.
Joel
3 years ago
Without the Lightning, the SPT Forum never gets built. Without the SPT Forum, you lose a lot of concerts, other sporting events, etc.
Expand it to the Bucs and RayJay. Without RayJay, the Bulls are probably playing at the Sombrero. Less people probably go to the games, which means less money for the team, which potentially means a lesser team – shall we argue the prestige of a good college football program in Florida? Nevermind the other events held at RayJay – what would people do without their monster trucks?
And I don’t buy the other entertainment options argument. Not once have I ever said, “Hmm, no hockey – I think I’ll go see Winger.” You go to a hockey game to see a hockey game, not because there’s nothing else to do. Frankly those games are too expensive to be a “you wanna do something?” type of activity.
And Jim Johnson’s point about city pride can’t be ignored, even if you can’t measure it economically. Frankly I’m a little shocked a conservative even suggested it, but more power to him.
None of this means you give them whatever they want, but you can’t dismiss it.
Lee
3 years ago
“hockey is a sport? i guess if you watch the Vs. network. or even get it at all. i don’t think pro hockey teams bring much prestige at all.”
That’s how I feel about baseball.
David Jenkins
3 years ago
Ditto, Lee!!!!