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		<title>By: Sticks of Fire: a Tampa blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; how to review a restaurant</title>
		<link>http://sticksoffire.com/2007/03/29/times-goes-without-critic/comment-page-1/#comment-78414</link>
		<dc:creator>Sticks of Fire: a Tampa blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; how to review a restaurant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 22:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] week after we asked about the St. Pete Times taking three months to fill the role of restaurant reviewer, the Times announced a replacement for Chris Sherman. Food [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rachel*</title>
		<link>http://sticksoffire.com/2007/03/29/times-goes-without-critic/comment-page-1/#comment-77993</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel*</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 00:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I get it.  You&#039;re the same Matt who writes about restaurants here.  

OK, I think you could do the Times job, too.  Better?  Jeez . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I get it.  You&#8217;re the same Matt who writes about restaurants here.  </p>
<p>OK, I think you could do the Times job, too.  Better?  Jeez . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel*</title>
		<link>http://sticksoffire.com/2007/03/29/times-goes-without-critic/comment-page-1/#comment-77991</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel*</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 00:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aw, you researched me! 

Nothing wow about it, though - those AOL clips aren&#039;t anywhere close to what the Times would have for a restaurant review.  They&#039;re traffic generators!  

They&#039;re also not the job I was referring to above.  I wrote those while I was still getting my Bachelors. 

And I&#039;m still right - that job at the Times requires a lot of specialized skill, so it&#039;s probably tough to fill. That is what every single thing I said above supports.  It&#039;s tough work and it needs someone really good.

But you made a good point, too - that you&#039;re kind of a dick for no real reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aw, you researched me! </p>
<p>Nothing wow about it, though &#8211; those AOL clips aren&#8217;t anywhere close to what the Times would have for a restaurant review.  They&#8217;re traffic generators!  </p>
<p>They&#8217;re also not the job I was referring to above.  I wrote those while I was still getting my Bachelors. </p>
<p>And I&#8217;m still right &#8211; that job at the Times requires a lot of specialized skill, so it&#8217;s probably tough to fill. That is what every single thing I said above supports.  It&#8217;s tough work and it needs someone really good.</p>
<p>But you made a good point, too &#8211; that you&#8217;re kind of a dick for no real reason.</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://sticksoffire.com/2007/03/29/times-goes-without-critic/comment-page-1/#comment-77926</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 21:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take two, b/c I&#039;m sure there&#039;s no censorship in the Sticks, right Tommy?

OK, Rachel, so this wouldn&#039;t happen to be YOU who wrote these fru fru little reviews for AOL [see link below].  They seem to be filled with discussion of ambience, service and folksiness [which you just criticized above and I thought real food reviewers didn&#039;t do?] and read like trumped up marketing pieces. 

I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll have a great explanation that will wow us. 

http://search.cityguide.aol.com/tampabay/restaurants/captain-jacks-food-and-spirits/v-288536</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take two, b/c I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s no censorship in the Sticks, right Tommy?</p>
<p>OK, Rachel, so this wouldn&#8217;t happen to be YOU who wrote these fru fru little reviews for AOL [see link below].  They seem to be filled with discussion of ambience, service and folksiness [which you just criticized above and I thought real food reviewers didn't do?] and read like trumped up marketing pieces. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll have a great explanation that will wow us. </p>
<p><a href="http://search.cityguide.aol.com/tampabay/restaurants/captain-jacks-food-and-spirits/v-288536" rel="nofollow">http://search.cityguide.aol.com/tampabay/restaurants/captain-jacks-food-and-spirits/v-288536</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rachel*</title>
		<link>http://sticksoffire.com/2007/03/29/times-goes-without-critic/comment-page-1/#comment-77847</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel*</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 21:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I started writing restaurant reviews for a national mag a few months back and I read tons and tons and tons of them from other sources in preparation.

I noticed a couple of things - first off, the really strong ones actually discuss the food *knowledgeably* so that people who aren&#039;t foodies can learn and be entertained.  

Secondly, most reviews are really amateurish.  Waaaaay too many barely even hit the food in that much detail.  There are observations of ambience and service and there&#039;s a lot of folksy star-writing in them (get to know me, get to know me!). That kind of writing doesn&#039;t belong in magazines or newspapers.  

So, the first thing I realized was that restaurant reviews are hard to write.  I spent a lot of time thinking about the writing mode and learning about what flavors I needed to be looking for in the meals and what words would describe them to a wide group of people without being *too* subjective, but also showing the personal consistency you guys are all mentioning.  

I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if the Times just really hasn&#039;t found anyone qualified.  I love doing it, but part of why I like it is because it forces me to really push my limits and learn about a complex subject.  I&#039;m lucky this particular mag took a risk on a novice food writer, because it is challenging work. 

That being said Creative Loafing&#039;s critic, with whom I ate at Oystercatchers for a review he wrote, did nothing but bitch the whole time we were there, but it turns out he&#039;s one of the best food writers I read.  He&#039;s clever and his writing is clean and balanced and informed.  

And it&#039;s really about the food, not just what he thinks about the food, which is the real trick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started writing restaurant reviews for a national mag a few months back and I read tons and tons and tons of them from other sources in preparation.</p>
<p>I noticed a couple of things &#8211; first off, the really strong ones actually discuss the food *knowledgeably* so that people who aren&#8217;t foodies can learn and be entertained.  </p>
<p>Secondly, most reviews are really amateurish.  Waaaaay too many barely even hit the food in that much detail.  There are observations of ambience and service and there&#8217;s a lot of folksy star-writing in them (get to know me, get to know me!). That kind of writing doesn&#8217;t belong in magazines or newspapers.  </p>
<p>So, the first thing I realized was that restaurant reviews are hard to write.  I spent a lot of time thinking about the writing mode and learning about what flavors I needed to be looking for in the meals and what words would describe them to a wide group of people without being *too* subjective, but also showing the personal consistency you guys are all mentioning.  </p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if the Times just really hasn&#8217;t found anyone qualified.  I love doing it, but part of why I like it is because it forces me to really push my limits and learn about a complex subject.  I&#8217;m lucky this particular mag took a risk on a novice food writer, because it is challenging work. </p>
<p>That being said Creative Loafing&#8217;s critic, with whom I ate at Oystercatchers for a review he wrote, did nothing but bitch the whole time we were there, but it turns out he&#8217;s one of the best food writers I read.  He&#8217;s clever and his writing is clean and balanced and informed.  </p>
<p>And it&#8217;s really about the food, not just what he thinks about the food, which is the real trick.</p>
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		<title>By: luckytop</title>
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		<dc:creator>luckytop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 17:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I prefer Matt&#039;s style of writing restaurant reviews.  Perhaps with just a tad of polishing, his reviews would be right for the Times, and a refreshing addition to the local food scene.  I say, skip half of the b.s. in most critic&#039;s reviews and let me know whether or not to eat there! (and I would not be ordering any &quot;french peasant style organ meats&quot; anyway!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I prefer Matt&#8217;s style of writing restaurant reviews.  Perhaps with just a tad of polishing, his reviews would be right for the Times, and a refreshing addition to the local food scene.  I say, skip half of the b.s. in most critic&#8217;s reviews and let me know whether or not to eat there! (and I would not be ordering any &#8220;french peasant style organ meats&#8221; anyway!)</p>
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		<title>By: dreaming</title>
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		<dc:creator>dreaming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 13:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ill second uptown kevin. the weekly planet runs the best reviews. that they usually deflate the latest hype over some new joint only confirms my own opinion after eating in them, once, that is.
newspaper food critics face an inherent conflict: their employers are in the business of selling ads to as many buyers as possible. thats why you so often read such tepid reviews in the trib and less so the times. sherman at least wasnt afraid to pan a place,albeit gently and with advice on how to improve.
meanwhile, i like matts blog entries. he makes his calls which is why hes worth reading and responding to.
tampas eating scene has some great decor. its the food flavour the chefs and owners seem to forget about in the end....why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ill second uptown kevin. the weekly planet runs the best reviews. that they usually deflate the latest hype over some new joint only confirms my own opinion after eating in them, once, that is.<br />
newspaper food critics face an inherent conflict: their employers are in the business of selling ads to as many buyers as possible. thats why you so often read such tepid reviews in the trib and less so the times. sherman at least wasnt afraid to pan a place,albeit gently and with advice on how to improve.<br />
meanwhile, i like matts blog entries. he makes his calls which is why hes worth reading and responding to.<br />
tampas eating scene has some great decor. its the food flavour the chefs and owners seem to forget about in the end&#8230;.why?</p>
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		<title>By: dreaming</title>
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		<dc:creator>dreaming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 13:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ill second uptownkevins notions. i too think the weekly planets reviews are typically spot on. that they usually end up deflating the hype over some new joint only confirms my own impressions after eating at many of them. tampas is great at designing wow decor for its new restaurants. the only thing missing is typically flavour in much of the food round yonder.
too many newspaper reviews take the easy way out by simply cataloguing what the local &#039;critic&#039; ate. i keep waiting to read a judgment. often, it doesnt come, or if it does, it is tepid in the extreme.
lets not forget the newspaper critics get their food checks picked up by their employers who are in the business of selling as many ads, restaurants included, as possible to stay in business. so there is an inherent conflict of interest in newspaper dining reviews.
that said, it was contest betw th times and trib over the better reviewing effort: chrsi sherman at least seemed to know his food and cooking and did sometimes pan places, albeit gently and with encouragement over how to fix the flaws.
meanwhile, matt is giving it a fun go by checking out all the offbeat joints. he makes his judgment calls in the end, which is why his blog entries are worth reading and responding to....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ill second uptownkevins notions. i too think the weekly planets reviews are typically spot on. that they usually end up deflating the hype over some new joint only confirms my own impressions after eating at many of them. tampas is great at designing wow decor for its new restaurants. the only thing missing is typically flavour in much of the food round yonder.<br />
too many newspaper reviews take the easy way out by simply cataloguing what the local &#8216;critic&#8217; ate. i keep waiting to read a judgment. often, it doesnt come, or if it does, it is tepid in the extreme.<br />
lets not forget the newspaper critics get their food checks picked up by their employers who are in the business of selling as many ads, restaurants included, as possible to stay in business. so there is an inherent conflict of interest in newspaper dining reviews.<br />
that said, it was contest betw th times and trib over the better reviewing effort: chrsi sherman at least seemed to know his food and cooking and did sometimes pan places, albeit gently and with encouragement over how to fix the flaws.<br />
meanwhile, matt is giving it a fun go by checking out all the offbeat joints. he makes his judgment calls in the end, which is why his blog entries are worth reading and responding to&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: UptownKevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>UptownKevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 12:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I moved to Tampa, I was gung ho about restaurants and finding the great food in Tampa.  I was also shocked that there were no blogs about food.  I quickly found out why; there isn&#039;t much excitement about food in Tampa (stay with me here).  Matt started his blog right about the time I started mine, and unfortunately it didn&#039;t take long for me to lose interest.

I came from a city that embraces food and places it in the center of all social events; a place where food is the topic of conversation.  Tampa is such a melting pot of transplants who have emigrated from other parts of the country and Bay area still hasn&#039;t developed its own culture.  In Tampa, we have professional baseball, football and hockey; wonderful beaches and fantastic weather as well as our share of national acts (grand prix racing and air shows come to mind).  On the other hand, art and food simply don&#039;t take precedence.  No negativity here; I just call it like it is.

So who is first, the chicken or the egg?  Is it necessary to have a flourishing restaurant community in order to create excitement and the need for a critic?  Or is it vital that a critic be in place to create excitement about food in order to stimulate the restaurant scene?  Only time will tell.

I really appreciate weekly reviews by Brian Ries in Creative Loafing, but more often than not, I read about yet another place that I don&#039;t have to spend my money in dining.  Week after week, the verdict is generally lackluster and shows how disappointing and tough it is to find a great meal.  However, his writing is realistic, down to earth and there&#039;s rarely a hint of pretentiousness.

I was pretty dissapointed when I found out Chris Sherman named Roy&#039;s as the best restaurant in the Bay area for 2006.  He lost all credibility with me when he published that list.  I was even more dissapointed several weeks ago when I dined at Roy&#039;s and had one of the best meals in recent memory in Tampa.  I was discouraged that I had to dine at a chain restaurant in order to get a consistent and great meal.  Perhaps that is the direction we are headed, but I&#039;d like to think the contrary.  I enjoy reading Matt&#039;s findings of neighborhood joints and am happy that he has continued writing.  I may one day continue, but at this time I just don&#039;t have the energy or the desire to write negatively about any local restaurant (I&#039;ve had too many mediocre meals that I&#039;d rather not report on).

Do we need a food critic?  Yes, but how many do we need?  Between the two local papers and Creative Loafing, are three critics too many?  I think we DO need one at each major publication.  We NEED people writing and talking about food and promoting local restaurants before our only choices are Chili&#039;s, Outback and Bonefish Grill.  I hope the St. Pete Times realizes this.

-Kevin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I moved to Tampa, I was gung ho about restaurants and finding the great food in Tampa.  I was also shocked that there were no blogs about food.  I quickly found out why; there isn&#8217;t much excitement about food in Tampa (stay with me here).  Matt started his blog right about the time I started mine, and unfortunately it didn&#8217;t take long for me to lose interest.</p>
<p>I came from a city that embraces food and places it in the center of all social events; a place where food is the topic of conversation.  Tampa is such a melting pot of transplants who have emigrated from other parts of the country and Bay area still hasn&#8217;t developed its own culture.  In Tampa, we have professional baseball, football and hockey; wonderful beaches and fantastic weather as well as our share of national acts (grand prix racing and air shows come to mind).  On the other hand, art and food simply don&#8217;t take precedence.  No negativity here; I just call it like it is.</p>
<p>So who is first, the chicken or the egg?  Is it necessary to have a flourishing restaurant community in order to create excitement and the need for a critic?  Or is it vital that a critic be in place to create excitement about food in order to stimulate the restaurant scene?  Only time will tell.</p>
<p>I really appreciate weekly reviews by Brian Ries in Creative Loafing, but more often than not, I read about yet another place that I don&#8217;t have to spend my money in dining.  Week after week, the verdict is generally lackluster and shows how disappointing and tough it is to find a great meal.  However, his writing is realistic, down to earth and there&#8217;s rarely a hint of pretentiousness.</p>
<p>I was pretty dissapointed when I found out Chris Sherman named Roy&#8217;s as the best restaurant in the Bay area for 2006.  He lost all credibility with me when he published that list.  I was even more dissapointed several weeks ago when I dined at Roy&#8217;s and had one of the best meals in recent memory in Tampa.  I was discouraged that I had to dine at a chain restaurant in order to get a consistent and great meal.  Perhaps that is the direction we are headed, but I&#8217;d like to think the contrary.  I enjoy reading Matt&#8217;s findings of neighborhood joints and am happy that he has continued writing.  I may one day continue, but at this time I just don&#8217;t have the energy or the desire to write negatively about any local restaurant (I&#8217;ve had too many mediocre meals that I&#8217;d rather not report on).</p>
<p>Do we need a food critic?  Yes, but how many do we need?  Between the two local papers and Creative Loafing, are three critics too many?  I think we DO need one at each major publication.  We NEED people writing and talking about food and promoting local restaurants before our only choices are Chili&#8217;s, Outback and Bonefish Grill.  I hope the St. Pete Times realizes this.</p>
<p>-Kevin</p>
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		<title>By: PortTampa</title>
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		<dc:creator>PortTampa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 01:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMHO a paper cannot be taken seriously unless it has a food critic who is not afraid to, hold the phone, be critical.  I still read the Washington Post reviews every Sunday and I only eat in that area about twice a year now. 

I don&#039;t imagine we&#039;ll be reading anything from Matt about French peasant style organ meats or other ultra foodie stuff, but I agree with those who think he&#039;s doing a great job with what he does-consistent voice, calls them like he sees them, searches out the little neighborhood spots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMHO a paper cannot be taken seriously unless it has a food critic who is not afraid to, hold the phone, be critical.  I still read the Washington Post reviews every Sunday and I only eat in that area about twice a year now. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t imagine we&#8217;ll be reading anything from Matt about French peasant style organ meats or other ultra foodie stuff, but I agree with those who think he&#8217;s doing a great job with what he does-consistent voice, calls them like he sees them, searches out the little neighborhood spots.</p>
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