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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://sticksoffire.com/2007/06/27/comment-on-sticks-leads-to-suspension/comment-page-1/#comment-303449</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 22:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>are yall SERIOUSLY this desperate for attention. IF nick schuyler or yourself is a member of the local Irish Republican Army someone better be bringing him up on charges but please don&#039;t think you&#039;ll intimidate us. As well. poisoning peoples&#039; children and drugging them when one has video evidence of same will end people up in prison for a LONG LONG time. Then what good will ya be to the motherland? give me a break.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>are yall SERIOUSLY this desperate for attention. IF nick schuyler or yourself is a member of the local Irish Republican Army someone better be bringing him up on charges but please don&#8217;t think you&#8217;ll intimidate us. As well. poisoning peoples&#8217; children and drugging them when one has video evidence of same will end people up in prison for a LONG LONG time. Then what good will ya be to the motherland? give me a break.</p>
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		<title>By: Sticks of Fire: a Tampa blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; wetlands wednesday</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sticks of Fire: a Tampa blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; wetlands wednesday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 13:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] left her position last month after telling it like she sees it right here on Sticks of Fire. See Sticks, Trib &amp; Times on her exit from the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] left her position last month after telling it like she sees it right here on Sticks of Fire. See Sticks, Trib &amp; Times on her exit from the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mariella</title>
		<link>http://sticksoffire.com/2007/06/27/comment-on-sticks-leads-to-suspension/comment-page-1/#comment-93644</link>
		<dc:creator>Mariella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 15:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad to see so much intelligent discussion and passion on this topic, and I am always interested in different points of view — hearing from all sides is essential to a real understanding of any issue, and besides, spirited debate livens up the conversation!
     4aBetterPlace: thanks for providing the links to your backup material. I did read them, but I don&#039;t think they prove your point. I&#039;m not expert in researching the state statutes, so I can&#039;t easily pull out the state and local laws that prove &lt;i&gt;my&lt;/i&gt; point. However, I have discussed this issue one-on-one, at length, with both Dr. Garrity (Director of EPC) and Richard Owen (Deputy Executive Director of SWFWMD). Both confirmed what the newspapers and (almost) everyone is saying: that our EPC protects small wetlands which our state does not protect. Furthermore, our local agency is much stricter about preserving wetlands rather than allowing mitigation; they work with developers closely throughout the planning, zoning and permitting stages; and they monitor compliance much more closely than the state agencies.
     Thanks to everyone for their contributions to this discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad to see so much intelligent discussion and passion on this topic, and I am always interested in different points of view — hearing from all sides is essential to a real understanding of any issue, and besides, spirited debate livens up the conversation!<br />
     4aBetterPlace: thanks for providing the links to your backup material. I did read them, but I don&#8217;t think they prove your point. I&#8217;m not expert in researching the state statutes, so I can&#8217;t easily pull out the state and local laws that prove <i>my</i> point. However, I have discussed this issue one-on-one, at length, with both Dr. Garrity (Director of EPC) and Richard Owen (Deputy Executive Director of SWFWMD). Both confirmed what the newspapers and (almost) everyone is saying: that our EPC protects small wetlands which our state does not protect. Furthermore, our local agency is much stricter about preserving wetlands rather than allowing mitigation; they work with developers closely throughout the planning, zoning and permitting stages; and they monitor compliance much more closely than the state agencies.<br />
     Thanks to everyone for their contributions to this discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: GKR</title>
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		<dc:creator>GKR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 22:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This just in, 06/30/07 St. Pete Times,
http://www.sptimes.com/2007/06/30/Northpinellas/Canoeist_rescued_in_g.shtml

&quot;Wetlands dispute arouses protests

A coalition of residents and community groups is asking Gov. Charlie Crist to investigate a preliminary decision by Hillsborough County&#039;s Environmental Protection Commission to eliminate its wetlands division.

The group - nearly 100 residents and civic groups - accuses the EPC governing board, made up of Hillsborough County commissioners, of &quot;misfeasance ... malfeasance ... and neglect of duty.&quot;

The group accuses the four EPC members who voted to eliminate local wetlands regulators of not following proper procedures to reach the decision, not acting in the best interests of either the agency or residents and of being improperly influenced by development interests. &quot;They need to remember who they work for, &quot; said Terry Flott, who chairs United Citizens&#039; Action Network. &quot;We&#039;re going to be reminding them.&quot;

Earlier in the day, Brian Blair, the EPC chairman and the target of some of the signs, agreed to postpone a final decision until at least August on the elimination of local review of development requests that affect wetlands. That will let the EPC&#039;s executive director finish an alternative plan that both trims spending and maintains some local oversight of wetlands.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This just in, 06/30/07 St. Pete Times,<br />
<a href="http://www.sptimes.com/2007/06/30/Northpinellas/Canoeist_rescued_in_g.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.sptimes.com/2007/06/30/Northpinellas/Canoeist_rescued_in_g.shtml</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Wetlands dispute arouses protests</p>
<p>A coalition of residents and community groups is asking Gov. Charlie Crist to investigate a preliminary decision by Hillsborough County&#8217;s Environmental Protection Commission to eliminate its wetlands division.</p>
<p>The group &#8211; nearly 100 residents and civic groups &#8211; accuses the EPC governing board, made up of Hillsborough County commissioners, of &#8220;misfeasance &#8230; malfeasance &#8230; and neglect of duty.&#8221;</p>
<p>The group accuses the four EPC members who voted to eliminate local wetlands regulators of not following proper procedures to reach the decision, not acting in the best interests of either the agency or residents and of being improperly influenced by development interests. &#8220;They need to remember who they work for, &#8221; said Terry Flott, who chairs United Citizens&#8217; Action Network. &#8220;We&#8217;re going to be reminding them.&#8221;</p>
<p>Earlier in the day, Brian Blair, the EPC chairman and the target of some of the signs, agreed to postpone a final decision until at least August on the elimination of local review of development requests that affect wetlands. That will let the EPC&#8217;s executive director finish an alternative plan that both trims spending and maintains some local oversight of wetlands.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: 4aBetterPlace</title>
		<link>http://sticksoffire.com/2007/06/27/comment-on-sticks-leads-to-suspension/comment-page-1/#comment-93233</link>
		<dc:creator>4aBetterPlace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 14:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I didn&#039;t abondon our discussion. I had to pick the kids up from conservation camp.

I return to Hyperbole, inuendo, ranting and changing the subject; I anticipated a more substantive and informed dialouge from a seemingly passionate bunch.

The annecdotes, if true should be reoprted. Ironically if they are true, and not just more &quot;I can use my property but he shouldn&#039;t use his sentiment&quot;, then they are an indictment of EPC as well as SWFWMD.

Guess if I&#039;m your &quot;pinata&quot; then you are wearing the blindfold.

As for Blair&#039;s backyard.............one more reason why Jadell should run! I pledged my contribution!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I didn&#8217;t abondon our discussion. I had to pick the kids up from conservation camp.</p>
<p>I return to Hyperbole, inuendo, ranting and changing the subject; I anticipated a more substantive and informed dialouge from a seemingly passionate bunch.</p>
<p>The annecdotes, if true should be reoprted. Ironically if they are true, and not just more &#8220;I can use my property but he shouldn&#8217;t use his sentiment&#8221;, then they are an indictment of EPC as well as SWFWMD.</p>
<p>Guess if I&#8217;m your &#8220;pinata&#8221; then you are wearing the blindfold.</p>
<p>As for Blair&#8217;s backyard&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.one more reason why Jadell should run! I pledged my contribution!</p>
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		<title>By: Ann of NPR</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann of NPR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 11:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Jadell Kerr&#039;s assessment of the situation.  For too many years we have sat back and allowed SWFWMD to be the last word in many of the water and wetland struggles.  

It is obvious to me that SWFWMD is on the take.  In our own neighborhood they allowed a natural wetland near the county government complex to be developed (prime real estate).  I agree with Jadell Kerr&#039;s assessment of the situation.  For too many years we have sat back and allowed SWFWMD to be the last word in many of the water and wetland struggles.  

It is obvious to me that SWFWMD is on the take.  In our own neighborhood they allowed a natural wetland near the county government complex to be developed (prime real estate).  

The developer, D. R. Horton, a large and powerful nation wide building contractor, was allowed to bulldoze and artificially elevate a 12 acre site in the mist of the wetland. On this &quot;new and improved&quot; site they intended to construct 120 units.  After having destroyed the wetland, construction is moving ahead slowly, the projected value of the individual units has fallen from an expected quarter million for a one bedroom townhouse due to the downturn in housing values, but the damage is already done.

We can thank SWFWMD for seeing dollar signs instead of the thousands of animals displaced and the aquifer forever effected. We need a local voice that is not afraid to stand up to big business and corrupt organizations.  

Another thought...Where have all the investigative reporters gone that should be blowing the whistle on these groups?  I hope someone stands up,takes notice and makes some noise before it’s too late for wetlands in your backyard!  


The developer, D. R. Horton, a large and powerful nation wide building contractor, was allowed to bulldoze and artifically elevate a 12 acre site in the mist of the wetland. On this &quot;new and improved&quot; site they intended to construct 120 units.  After having destroyed the wetland, construction is moving ahead slowly, the projected value of the individual units has fallen from an expected quarter million for a one bedroom townshouse due to the downturn in housing values, but the damage is already done.

We can thank SWFWMD for seeing dollar signs instead of the thousands of animals displaced and the aquifer forever effected. We need a local voice that is not afraid to stand up to big business and corrupt organizations.  

Another thought...Where have all the investagative reporters gone that should be blowing the wistle on these groups?  I hope someone stands up and takes notice and makes some noise before its too late!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Jadell Kerr&#8217;s assessment of the situation.  For too many years we have sat back and allowed SWFWMD to be the last word in many of the water and wetland struggles.  </p>
<p>It is obvious to me that SWFWMD is on the take.  In our own neighborhood they allowed a natural wetland near the county government complex to be developed (prime real estate).  I agree with Jadell Kerr&#8217;s assessment of the situation.  For too many years we have sat back and allowed SWFWMD to be the last word in many of the water and wetland struggles.  </p>
<p>It is obvious to me that SWFWMD is on the take.  In our own neighborhood they allowed a natural wetland near the county government complex to be developed (prime real estate).  </p>
<p>The developer, D. R. Horton, a large and powerful nation wide building contractor, was allowed to bulldoze and artificially elevate a 12 acre site in the mist of the wetland. On this &#8220;new and improved&#8221; site they intended to construct 120 units.  After having destroyed the wetland, construction is moving ahead slowly, the projected value of the individual units has fallen from an expected quarter million for a one bedroom townhouse due to the downturn in housing values, but the damage is already done.</p>
<p>We can thank SWFWMD for seeing dollar signs instead of the thousands of animals displaced and the aquifer forever effected. We need a local voice that is not afraid to stand up to big business and corrupt organizations.  </p>
<p>Another thought&#8230;Where have all the investigative reporters gone that should be blowing the whistle on these groups?  I hope someone stands up,takes notice and makes some noise before it’s too late for wetlands in your backyard!  </p>
<p>The developer, D. R. Horton, a large and powerful nation wide building contractor, was allowed to bulldoze and artifically elevate a 12 acre site in the mist of the wetland. On this &#8220;new and improved&#8221; site they intended to construct 120 units.  After having destroyed the wetland, construction is moving ahead slowly, the projected value of the individual units has fallen from an expected quarter million for a one bedroom townshouse due to the downturn in housing values, but the damage is already done.</p>
<p>We can thank SWFWMD for seeing dollar signs instead of the thousands of animals displaced and the aquifer forever effected. We need a local voice that is not afraid to stand up to big business and corrupt organizations.  </p>
<p>Another thought&#8230;Where have all the investagative reporters gone that should be blowing the wistle on these groups?  I hope someone stands up and takes notice and makes some noise before its too late!</p>
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		<title>By: Meredith</title>
		<link>http://sticksoffire.com/2007/06/27/comment-on-sticks-leads-to-suspension/comment-page-1/#comment-92429</link>
		<dc:creator>Meredith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 04:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the developers lobbied to kill the EPC solely because they&#039;re feeling civic-minded and want to save the taxpayers by reducing redundant bureaucracy?  And the developers don&#039;t stand to gain a thing by this action?  And Brian Blair&#039;s yard is just a funny story, not anything to get upset about, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the developers lobbied to kill the EPC solely because they&#8217;re feeling civic-minded and want to save the taxpayers by reducing redundant bureaucracy?  And the developers don&#8217;t stand to gain a thing by this action?  And Brian Blair&#8217;s yard is just a funny story, not anything to get upset about, right?</p>
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		<title>By: DMS</title>
		<link>http://sticksoffire.com/2007/06/27/comment-on-sticks-leads-to-suspension/comment-page-1/#comment-92355</link>
		<dc:creator>DMS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 03:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No more dilution of wetland protection!
It&#039;s a new trend in every facet of government.</description>
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It&#8217;s a new trend in every facet of government.</p>
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		<title>By: DMS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DMS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 03:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so glad you printed this story and can only commend Ms. Kerr for standing up to the powers that be anyway she can.  Even the federal EPA work in an atmosphere of intimidation according to an article I recently saw.  We need people, like Ms. Kerr, who are actually standing up for the whole community and following wetland legislation.  I can not believe the development in New Tampa and the rampant destruction of wetlands and pollution of important waterways.  I&#039;m glad someone had the courage and conviction to make a stand!! We need a million more like her!!  &#039;We do not need to redefine wetlands, clean water, or clean air.  We need to regulate those who would exploit our natural resources for their own personal gain!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so glad you printed this story and can only commend Ms. Kerr for standing up to the powers that be anyway she can.  Even the federal EPA work in an atmosphere of intimidation according to an article I recently saw.  We need people, like Ms. Kerr, who are actually standing up for the whole community and following wetland legislation.  I can not believe the development in New Tampa and the rampant destruction of wetlands and pollution of important waterways.  I&#8217;m glad someone had the courage and conviction to make a stand!! We need a million more like her!!  &#8216;We do not need to redefine wetlands, clean water, or clean air.  We need to regulate those who would exploit our natural resources for their own personal gain!</p>
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		<title>By: Tobbi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tobbi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 23:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah,  4aBetterPlace, rules are only good if they are followed.  Are they being followed?  If they were then why are developers upset at EPC?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah,  4aBetterPlace, rules are only good if they are followed.  Are they being followed?  If they were then why are developers upset at EPC?</p>
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