Comments on: haggling over the price of wetlands http://sticksoffire.com/2007/09/21/haggling-over-the-price-of-wetlands/ A very loose interpretation of the news and happenings in and around Tampa Mon, 15 Mar 2010 02:53:09 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Sticks of Fire: a Tampa blog » Blog Archive » destroying wetlands on (so-called) “farm land” http://sticksoffire.com/2007/09/21/haggling-over-the-price-of-wetlands/comment-page-1/#comment-162679 Sticks of Fire: a Tampa blog » Blog Archive » destroying wetlands on (so-called) “farm land” Tue, 15 Jan 2008 01:41:45 +0000 http://sticksoffire.com/2007/09/21/haggling-over-the-price-of-wetlands/#comment-162679 [...] raised many good questions about the proposed Agricultural Exemption to our wetland protections, and we asked our Environmental Protection Commissioners (aka our county [...] [...] raised many good questions about the proposed Agricultural Exemption to our wetland protections, and we asked our Environmental Protection Commissioners (aka our county [...]

]]> By: Sticks of Fire: a Tampa blog » Blog Archive » Commissioners should not act at wetland hearing Thursday http://sticksoffire.com/2007/09/21/haggling-over-the-price-of-wetlands/comment-page-1/#comment-130705 Sticks of Fire: a Tampa blog » Blog Archive » Commissioners should not act at wetland hearing Thursday Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:07:50 +0000 http://sticksoffire.com/2007/09/21/haggling-over-the-price-of-wetlands/#comment-130705 [...] we were hammering out a deal with farmers to let them out of some of EPC’s local wetland regulations, under certain [...] [...] we were hammering out a deal with farmers to let them out of some of EPC’s local wetland regulations, under certain [...]

]]> By: tiny... http://sticksoffire.com/2007/09/21/haggling-over-the-price-of-wetlands/comment-page-1/#comment-113185 tiny... Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:14:14 +0000 http://sticksoffire.com/2007/09/21/haggling-over-the-price-of-wetlands/#comment-113185 typo. feel free to stick the "t" in there, Tommy. typo. feel free to stick the “t” in there, Tommy.

]]> By: tiny... http://sticksoffire.com/2007/09/21/haggling-over-the-price-of-wetlands/comment-page-1/#comment-113183 tiny... Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:12:57 +0000 http://sticksoffire.com/2007/09/21/haggling-over-the-price-of-wetlands/#comment-113183 Blair's brain is the only wetland that needs development. Blair’s brain is the only wetland that needs development.

]]> By: GKR http://sticksoffire.com/2007/09/21/haggling-over-the-price-of-wetlands/comment-page-1/#comment-113162 GKR Fri, 21 Sep 2007 18:29:21 +0000 http://sticksoffire.com/2007/09/21/haggling-over-the-price-of-wetlands/#comment-113162 Lee, the article made some very valid points. Mariella is right, one can always find a reason to build on an undeveloped parcel. But there are often equally valid reasons for building nothing, and keeping the land pristine. This is what the balance of "good growth" is all about. Imagine if builders and developers (and architects and planners) had to take the Hippocratic Oath before they received their licenses--"First, do no harm". Lee, the article made some very valid points.

Mariella is right, one can always find a reason to build on an undeveloped parcel. But there are often equally valid reasons for building nothing, and keeping the land pristine. This is what the balance of “good growth” is all about.

Imagine if builders and developers (and architects and planners) had to take the Hippocratic Oath before they received their licenses–”First, do no harm”.

]]> By: Lee Nelson http://sticksoffire.com/2007/09/21/haggling-over-the-price-of-wetlands/comment-page-1/#comment-113144 Lee Nelson Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:40:31 +0000 http://sticksoffire.com/2007/09/21/haggling-over-the-price-of-wetlands/#comment-113144 Oops, meant to add -- Mariella -- thanks so much for keeping us SOF readers informed on this all important issue! Oops, meant to add —

Mariella — thanks so much for keeping us SOF readers informed on this all important issue!

]]> By: Lee Nelson http://sticksoffire.com/2007/09/21/haggling-over-the-price-of-wetlands/comment-page-1/#comment-113143 Lee Nelson Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:37:13 +0000 http://sticksoffire.com/2007/09/21/haggling-over-the-price-of-wetlands/#comment-113143 GKR - that was an interesting read. I remember a few years ago there was a statistic about the cost of the Iraq invasion vs. the cost of buying every American a new hybrid car -- at the time it was like 2.5 new cars. This is all about opportunity costs -- and I like how that article addressed the fact that we _do_ benefit from this massive amount of energy consumption we are accustomed to consuming. GKR – that was an interesting read. I remember a few years ago there was a statistic about the cost of the Iraq invasion vs. the cost of buying every American a new hybrid car — at the time it was like 2.5 new cars.

This is all about opportunity costs — and I like how that article addressed the fact that we _do_ benefit from this massive amount of energy consumption we are accustomed to consuming.

]]> By: Mariella Smith http://sticksoffire.com/2007/09/21/haggling-over-the-price-of-wetlands/comment-page-1/#comment-113138 Mariella Smith Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:25:38 +0000 http://sticksoffire.com/2007/09/21/haggling-over-the-price-of-wetlands/#comment-113138 <a HREF="http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070910/NEWS01/709100335" rel="nofollow">Here's a good example of a large farmer/developer using agricultural exemptions to drain wetlands for development.</a> Here’s a good example of a large farmer/developer using agricultural exemptions to drain wetlands for development.

]]> By: GKR http://sticksoffire.com/2007/09/21/haggling-over-the-price-of-wetlands/comment-page-1/#comment-113089 GKR Fri, 21 Sep 2007 13:26:24 +0000 http://sticksoffire.com/2007/09/21/haggling-over-the-price-of-wetlands/#comment-113089 "A Manifesto for a New Environmentalism." http://www.tnr.com/docprint.mhtml?i=20070924&s=nordhaus092407 “A Manifesto for a New Environmentalism.”

http://www.tnr.com/docprint.mhtml?i=20070924&s=nordhaus092407

]]> By: haggling over the price of wetlands : Celebrity News Corner http://sticksoffire.com/2007/09/21/haggling-over-the-price-of-wetlands/comment-page-1/#comment-113072 haggling over the price of wetlands : Celebrity News Corner Fri, 21 Sep 2007 12:08:00 +0000 http://sticksoffire.com/2007/09/21/haggling-over-the-price-of-wetlands/#comment-113072 [...] FilmwadStaff wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptEPC will hold a workshop on the Ag Exemptions, Sept. 24, 6 – 8 pm, at the Roger P. Stewart Center, near I-75 & MLK. They’ll answer questions and take public input. You can also submit your comments in writing, by October 5, … [...] [...] FilmwadStaff wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptEPC will hold a workshop on the Ag Exemptions, Sept. 24, 6 – 8 pm, at the Roger P. Stewart Center, near I-75 & MLK. They’ll answer questions and take public input. You can also submit your comments in writing, by October 5, … [...]

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