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	<title>Comments on: dunedin is walkable, though</title>
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		<title>By: Mannoroh</title>
		<link>http://sticksoffire.com/2007/12/10/dunedin-is-walkable-though/comment-page-1/#comment-146574</link>
		<dc:creator>Mannoroh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My walk score is 22… I was rather upset with it. And I was surprised to know that there is another score called &lt;a href=&quot;http://drivescore.fizber.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; drive score&lt;/a&gt; to evaluate my house. I found the way to calculate it online at Fizber site (http://drivescore.fizber.com/). I’ve got much better results – 44.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My walk score is 22… I was rather upset with it. And I was surprised to know that there is another score called <a href="http://drivescore.fizber.com/" rel="nofollow"> drive score</a> to evaluate my house. I found the way to calculate it online at Fizber site (<a href="http://drivescore.fizber.com/" rel="nofollow">http://drivescore.fizber.com/</a>). I’ve got much better results – 44.</p>
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		<title>By: GKR</title>
		<link>http://sticksoffire.com/2007/12/10/dunedin-is-walkable-though/comment-page-1/#comment-146286</link>
		<dc:creator>GKR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 03:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, don&#039;t worry, when the kids have gone off to college you&#039;ll both want the urban condo again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, don&#8217;t worry, when the kids have gone off to college you&#8217;ll both want the urban condo again.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://sticksoffire.com/2007/12/10/dunedin-is-walkable-though/comment-page-1/#comment-146195</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when I was 25 and single, the thought of living in a Channelside condo was appealing, though unaffordable.  Now that I am 30, married with kids, why would I spend $350k for an 800 square foot condo downtown, when I can spend less for a house and yard in the suburbs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when I was 25 and single, the thought of living in a Channelside condo was appealing, though unaffordable.  Now that I am 30, married with kids, why would I spend $350k for an 800 square foot condo downtown, when I can spend less for a house and yard in the suburbs?</p>
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		<title>By: piratechic</title>
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		<dc:creator>piratechic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought this site was pretty neat, for getting a &#039;walk score&#039; for any address:
http://www.walkscore.com/

It uses google maps + business directory</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought this site was pretty neat, for getting a &#8216;walk score&#8217; for any address:<br />
<a href="http://www.walkscore.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.walkscore.com/</a></p>
<p>It uses google maps + business directory</p>
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		<title>By: The Carl</title>
		<link>http://sticksoffire.com/2007/12/10/dunedin-is-walkable-though/comment-page-1/#comment-146119</link>
		<dc:creator>The Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ybor WAS walkable til they reopened 7th Ave to vehicles on Fri/Sat nites. Now it&#039;s in dire straits again. Coincidence? (Dunedin is great, just wish it was closer.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ybor WAS walkable til they reopened 7th Ave to vehicles on Fri/Sat nites. Now it&#8217;s in dire straits again. Coincidence? (Dunedin is great, just wish it was closer.)</p>
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		<title>By: GKR</title>
		<link>http://sticksoffire.com/2007/12/10/dunedin-is-walkable-though/comment-page-1/#comment-146114</link>
		<dc:creator>GKR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tampa Tribune Editorial online comment:

&quot;Ah yes, The Tampa Tribune, buttresses for the dysfunctional status quo to the (its) end.

Instead of denying what experts say that is not favorable about our area, why can&#039;t we for once admit we have a problem (like in AA), and that we have to do a whole heck of a lot better.

Sure there are neighborhoods in Tampa Bay where you can walk around, that&#039;s not the point, the study is talking about &quot;connectivity&quot; (think &quot;big picture&quot; here folks) and transportation options--you know--cars (electric, hybrid, fossil fuel), busses, trolleys, light and high speed rail, bikes, Segways, walking,.....

Let&#039;s not, for once, let ourselves off the hook.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tampa Tribune Editorial online comment:</p>
<p>&#8220;Ah yes, The Tampa Tribune, buttresses for the dysfunctional status quo to the (its) end.</p>
<p>Instead of denying what experts say that is not favorable about our area, why can&#8217;t we for once admit we have a problem (like in AA), and that we have to do a whole heck of a lot better.</p>
<p>Sure there are neighborhoods in Tampa Bay where you can walk around, that&#8217;s not the point, the study is talking about &#8220;connectivity&#8221; (think &#8220;big picture&#8221; here folks) and transportation options&#8211;you know&#8211;cars (electric, hybrid, fossil fuel), busses, trolleys, light and high speed rail, bikes, Segways, walking,&#8230;..</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not, for once, let ourselves off the hook.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: calebism</title>
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		<dc:creator>calebism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact that one tiny portion of one town (most of Dunedin is an unwalkable sprawl identical to the rest of the florida splurbs) is vaguely human-scaled in no way debunks the national study. One of the logical fallacies you employ is that of an inconsequentially small (formally- &quot;biased&quot;)sample. (one area of one town is walkable, so Tampa Bay is walkable, so the study is debunked. Right.) The next logical fallacy is that of Appeal to Authority, as if the pronouncement of a mayor makes it so. Or that of a co-owner of a tourist-dependant institution.
It might be possible to &quot;debunk&quot; the quoted report, bu you have in no way contributed to that effort with this piece.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that one tiny portion of one town (most of Dunedin is an unwalkable sprawl identical to the rest of the florida splurbs) is vaguely human-scaled in no way debunks the national study. One of the logical fallacies you employ is that of an inconsequentially small (formally- &#8220;biased&#8221;)sample. (one area of one town is walkable, so Tampa Bay is walkable, so the study is debunked. Right.) The next logical fallacy is that of Appeal to Authority, as if the pronouncement of a mayor makes it so. Or that of a co-owner of a tourist-dependant institution.<br />
It might be possible to &#8220;debunk&#8221; the quoted report, bu you have in no way contributed to that effort with this piece.</p>
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		<title>By: Mariella Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mariella Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www2.tbo.com/content/2007/dec/10/na-tampa-walks-off-with-last-place/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tribune editorial&lt;/a&gt; responds that Tampa has plenty of places to walk—like Busch Gardens, Bayshore Boulevard, the beaches and the old Gandy Bridge. They say “pedestrians rule” in all our indoor shopping malls and inside our airport. As if shopping malls and zoos are what make a city walkable. Sure it’s great to take a long walk on the beach, or on the Bayshore (or in the airport?!) but none of that can move Tampa up from last place in the list of “walkable urban places.”

Ybor City should count for something, though. And maybe Davis Island’s mini-shopping district, which the Trib also mentioned.

Dunedin IS walkable. And Gulfport is getting there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today&#8217;s <a href="http://www2.tbo.com/content/2007/dec/10/na-tampa-walks-off-with-last-place/" rel="nofollow">Tribune editorial</a> responds that Tampa has plenty of places to walk—like Busch Gardens, Bayshore Boulevard, the beaches and the old Gandy Bridge. They say “pedestrians rule” in all our indoor shopping malls and inside our airport. As if shopping malls and zoos are what make a city walkable. Sure it’s great to take a long walk on the beach, or on the Bayshore (or in the airport?!) but none of that can move Tampa up from last place in the list of “walkable urban places.”</p>
<p>Ybor City should count for something, though. And maybe Davis Island’s mini-shopping district, which the Trib also mentioned.</p>
<p>Dunedin IS walkable. And Gulfport is getting there.</p>
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