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		<title>By: Karen Lee</title>
		<link>http://sticksoffire.com/2008/01/03/walking-in-tampa/comment-page-1/#comment-157854</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 02:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve worked in downtown Tampa for 13 years and know it well.  When the condos started going up, I eagerly waited for an affordable building to come along so I could sell my South Tampa condo and become a walk-to-worker.  I&#039;m still waiting for &quot;affordable.&quot;  

A couple of months ago, I had some errands and decided to do them downtown, on foot, instead of in my car in South Tampa.  After work, I walked to CVS for some basic purchases, walked to the library to do some travel research for an upcoming trip, then walked to a restaurant to eat dinner.  By the time I finished, I decided that no matter how inexpensive the condos get downtown, I don&#039;t want to live there.  As everyone else mentioned, the trash, homeless people, and empty streets made it a very unpleasant experience ... not to mention all the concrete and lack of plants/greenery.  Downtown, even the trees live in cages.  I know from experience that cities such as Chicago, Baltimore, Boston and Philadelphia are NOT like that.  Plus, they have public transportation so that people who want to hang out downtown after work can easily get back home to the open spaces in the burbs.

By the time I finished my tasks, I was honestly looking forward to the short commute home, partly because I could enjoy the greenery along the way!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve worked in downtown Tampa for 13 years and know it well.  When the condos started going up, I eagerly waited for an affordable building to come along so I could sell my South Tampa condo and become a walk-to-worker.  I&#8217;m still waiting for &#8220;affordable.&#8221;  </p>
<p>A couple of months ago, I had some errands and decided to do them downtown, on foot, instead of in my car in South Tampa.  After work, I walked to CVS for some basic purchases, walked to the library to do some travel research for an upcoming trip, then walked to a restaurant to eat dinner.  By the time I finished, I decided that no matter how inexpensive the condos get downtown, I don&#8217;t want to live there.  As everyone else mentioned, the trash, homeless people, and empty streets made it a very unpleasant experience &#8230; not to mention all the concrete and lack of plants/greenery.  Downtown, even the trees live in cages.  I know from experience that cities such as Chicago, Baltimore, Boston and Philadelphia are NOT like that.  Plus, they have public transportation so that people who want to hang out downtown after work can easily get back home to the open spaces in the burbs.</p>
<p>By the time I finished my tasks, I was honestly looking forward to the short commute home, partly because I could enjoy the greenery along the way!</p>
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		<title>By: GKR</title>
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		<dc:creator>GKR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 16:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Tampa Downtown Partnership (TBP) is but a cog in the wheel that keeps our area &quot;frozen in time&quot;.

Both the Tribune and the Times are currently battling one another to discredit the Brookings Report findings that say our area is &quot;not walkable&quot;.

It&#039;s true, our area &quot;is not walkable&quot;, now what are we going to do about it?  

Sure, several streets in Dunedin are walkable, heck my own street in Temple Terrace is &quot;walkable&quot;.  

What about the larger context?  What about alternate forms of transit tying our area together?  

There is something in the attitude of our so-called local leaders that makes them ignore our real problems and put a smiley face on everything.  

Our area needs a ton of work to improve it&#039;s quality of life, and this work won&#039;t be done until we admit there is a problem, and are able to bypass status quo groups like the TBP, and the BOCC for that matter.  

We don&#039;t need more cheerleaders and shell games, we need real change, and now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Tampa Downtown Partnership (TBP) is but a cog in the wheel that keeps our area &#8220;frozen in time&#8221;.</p>
<p>Both the Tribune and the Times are currently battling one another to discredit the Brookings Report findings that say our area is &#8220;not walkable&#8221;.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s true, our area &#8220;is not walkable&#8221;, now what are we going to do about it?  </p>
<p>Sure, several streets in Dunedin are walkable, heck my own street in Temple Terrace is &#8220;walkable&#8221;.  </p>
<p>What about the larger context?  What about alternate forms of transit tying our area together?  </p>
<p>There is something in the attitude of our so-called local leaders that makes them ignore our real problems and put a smiley face on everything.  </p>
<p>Our area needs a ton of work to improve it&#8217;s quality of life, and this work won&#8217;t be done until we admit there is a problem, and are able to bypass status quo groups like the TBP, and the BOCC for that matter.  </p>
<p>We don&#8217;t need more cheerleaders and shell games, we need real change, and now!</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://sticksoffire.com/2008/01/03/walking-in-tampa/comment-page-1/#comment-157742</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 16:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;In other cities that I’ve lived in, gentrification usually starts when the artists and the gay community come in a liven a place up with studios, boutiques and cafés. Just about the time that the area becomes a place where people would want to hang out or live, developers come in and price out the pioneers. It seems like downtown Tampa skipped step 1. Despite the blight, downtown real estate has never been accesible to anyone but transnational corporations and speculators.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s Channelside.  Not the downtown core, but Channelside...  Artists were conveting warehouse space into studios and lofts...  then started selling their properties off to developers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>In other cities that I’ve lived in, gentrification usually starts when the artists and the gay community come in a liven a place up with studios, boutiques and cafés. Just about the time that the area becomes a place where people would want to hang out or live, developers come in and price out the pioneers. It seems like downtown Tampa skipped step 1. Despite the blight, downtown real estate has never been accesible to anyone but transnational corporations and speculators.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s Channelside.  Not the downtown core, but Channelside&#8230;  Artists were conveting warehouse space into studios and lofts&#8230;  then started selling their properties off to developers.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Gunsaullus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Gunsaullus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 14:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I do go downtown, it&#039;s usually for a transfer at the Marion Transit Center.  I usually take a few minutes and walk around the &quot;neighborhood.&quot;  What a place.  It&#039;s king of like standing between the edge of a cliff and an alien landscape.  Aside from the cars speeding up Florida Avenue, it&#039;s usually deathly quiet.  All the empty store fronts and vacant lots make me imagine the ruins of a forgotten civilization.

In other cities that I&#039;ve lived in, gentrification usually starts when the artists and the gay community come in a liven a place up with studios, boutiques and cafés.  Just about the time that the area becomes a place where people would want to hang out or live, developers come in and price out the pioneers.  It seems like downtown Tampa skipped step 1.  Despite the blight, downtown real estate has never been accesible to anyone but transnational corporations and speculators.

What&#039;s the deal with fly bar anyway?  It&#039;s a swingers-type-money joint for sure but everytime I&#039;ve been there, it&#039;s dead.  On Saturday afternoons, in that part of town, you can hear a pin drop two blocks away.  God blees&#039;em but they&#039;re 10 years ahead of their time.

I would have to take issue with one point from the Times article.  If there was ever a time when it would be better to walk downtown, it would have to be during or immediately after a major event like a hockey game.  Save your sanity, gasoline and put one less car in that mess.  Take the bus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I do go downtown, it&#8217;s usually for a transfer at the Marion Transit Center.  I usually take a few minutes and walk around the &#8220;neighborhood.&#8221;  What a place.  It&#8217;s king of like standing between the edge of a cliff and an alien landscape.  Aside from the cars speeding up Florida Avenue, it&#8217;s usually deathly quiet.  All the empty store fronts and vacant lots make me imagine the ruins of a forgotten civilization.</p>
<p>In other cities that I&#8217;ve lived in, gentrification usually starts when the artists and the gay community come in a liven a place up with studios, boutiques and cafés.  Just about the time that the area becomes a place where people would want to hang out or live, developers come in and price out the pioneers.  It seems like downtown Tampa skipped step 1.  Despite the blight, downtown real estate has never been accesible to anyone but transnational corporations and speculators.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the deal with fly bar anyway?  It&#8217;s a swingers-type-money joint for sure but everytime I&#8217;ve been there, it&#8217;s dead.  On Saturday afternoons, in that part of town, you can hear a pin drop two blocks away.  God blees&#8217;em but they&#8217;re 10 years ahead of their time.</p>
<p>I would have to take issue with one point from the Times article.  If there was ever a time when it would be better to walk downtown, it would have to be during or immediately after a major event like a hockey game.  Save your sanity, gasoline and put one less car in that mess.  Take the bus.</p>
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		<title>By: Wifey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wifey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 13:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My friend and I walk everyday after we eat our lunch and it is not easy to get around.  The river walkway has people sleeping on the benches and people hanging out behind the museum that basically make us nervous.  Then we tried the downtown streets. Between construction, broken sidewalks and some areas smelling like urine that was not pleasant. We know stick to the main traffic areas for the lunch rush, Franklin Street to Ashley and we just walk in a big square.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My friend and I walk everyday after we eat our lunch and it is not easy to get around.  The river walkway has people sleeping on the benches and people hanging out behind the museum that basically make us nervous.  Then we tried the downtown streets. Between construction, broken sidewalks and some areas smelling like urine that was not pleasant. We know stick to the main traffic areas for the lunch rush, Franklin Street to Ashley and we just walk in a big square.</p>
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