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	<title>Comments on: pat bean: no more nature preserves</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 01:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hillsborough Needs Administrator To Push Hard For ELAPP&quot;

http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/apr/05/na-hillsborough-needs-administrator-to-push-hard-f/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hillsborough Needs Administrator To Push Hard For ELAPP&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: pokesittiekid</title>
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		<dc:creator>pokesittiekid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 19:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Queen Bean, the lean mean libertine machine!! Now she&#039;s creating her own sovereign rules from her throne, as evidenced by Tuesday&#039;s MPO meeting, and making sweeping judgments for the &quot;good of our county&quot; without consulting..that&#039;s right, the citizens of ...THE COUNTY!

Climb down Pat, and shut up. You&#039;ve been at this much too long. Do something with her, BOCC!!  It&#039;s an election year!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Queen Bean, the lean mean libertine machine!! Now she&#8217;s creating her own sovereign rules from her throne, as evidenced by Tuesday&#8217;s MPO meeting, and making sweeping judgments for the &#8220;good of our county&#8221; without consulting..that&#8217;s right, the citizens of &#8230;THE COUNTY!</p>
<p>Climb down Pat, and shut up. You&#8217;ve been at this much too long. Do something with her, BOCC!!  It&#8217;s an election year!!</p>
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		<title>By: lester</title>
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		<dc:creator>lester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 19:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No wait. We were wrong! I just saw the MPO meeting from 4/01 on Ch. 22 and Pat Bean can do anything she wants! If she wants an agenda entered at the last moment before a meeting, she is free to do that...per her own lips. 

Now doesn&#039;t that mean that a nefarious &quot;boss&quot; of hers on the BOCC could have her do dirty work he is prohibited by rules from doing himself? Sure looks like it happened Tuesday, and again, the citizens are the losers. This is absolute power for The Dark Side, all balled up in our own little Bean bag. Nice gig for both her and The Dark Side on BOCC. This needs really close scrutiny. .....Come November&#039;s elections changes must be wrought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No wait. We were wrong! I just saw the MPO meeting from 4/01 on Ch. 22 and Pat Bean can do anything she wants! If she wants an agenda entered at the last moment before a meeting, she is free to do that&#8230;per her own lips. </p>
<p>Now doesn&#8217;t that mean that a nefarious &#8220;boss&#8221; of hers on the BOCC could have her do dirty work he is prohibited by rules from doing himself? Sure looks like it happened Tuesday, and again, the citizens are the losers. This is absolute power for The Dark Side, all balled up in our own little Bean bag. Nice gig for both her and The Dark Side on BOCC. This needs really close scrutiny. &#8230;..Come November&#8217;s elections changes must be wrought.</p>
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		<title>By: chaaalie</title>
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		<dc:creator>chaaalie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 18:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In an effort to provide a little balance to this topic: Whenever the county buys a piece of land, it falls off the tax rolls forever. This means that the county would be spending money in tight times that would DECREASE revenues. (Especially those pristine wetlands that some call &quot;water front.&quot;)

Not a defense, not a reason. Just saying it could have been written  in such a way that the exact same quote portrayed her as &quot;working hard to make every cent count.&quot; 

Just my 2¢ (taxable.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In an effort to provide a little balance to this topic: Whenever the county buys a piece of land, it falls off the tax rolls forever. This means that the county would be spending money in tight times that would DECREASE revenues. (Especially those pristine wetlands that some call &#8220;water front.&#8221;)</p>
<p>Not a defense, not a reason. Just saying it could have been written  in such a way that the exact same quote portrayed her as &#8220;working hard to make every cent count.&#8221; </p>
<p>Just my 2¢ (taxable.)</p>
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		<title>By: Reality Czech</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reality Czech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 02:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a real estate market like this, the fact that government WANTS to buy land of mine no one else will is a blessing...what is she thinking?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a real estate market like this, the fact that government WANTS to buy land of mine no one else will is a blessing&#8230;what is she thinking?</p>
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		<title>By: tiny...</title>
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		<dc:creator>tiny...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 21:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again I feel so &quot;over-represented&quot; by our un-elected representative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again I feel so &#8220;over-represented&#8221; by our un-elected representative.</p>
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		<title>By: GKR</title>
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		<dc:creator>GKR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 17:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear County Commission:

I recently read the March 31 Tampa Tribune article titled “Poll On Land Conservation Program Put On Hold”.

I am a local practicing architect who lives in Temple Terrace and I am flabbergasted at the backwardness of County Administrator Pat Bean’s remarks in the article.  She is at best uninformed, at worse she’s a BOCC pawn.  Obviously, Ms. Bean is acting on directive from at least some of the County Commission, if not, then she should be forced to resign immediately.

Not continuing with ELAPP, which citizens throughout the county will tell you is one of the smartest programs the county has ever embarked on, is incredibly myopic and goes against the direction of groups like 1000 friends of Florida and others.  

ELAPP is needed.  I know, as I have been nominating properties for ELAPP acquisition every year for the last six years.  I can tell you that it is hard to find undeveloped property to nominate in the county that some developer does not already have their eye on, and since the land development industry (and unfortunately largely not “good” development) is so obscenely powerful in our county, not one of the properties I have nominated as ever made it to acquisition (though some got close).  And while it is probably naïve, as Bean suggests, to only consider land for ELAPP that has not seen the hand of man in the last 178 years, there is plenty of land that has beautiful second or third growth forests on it that should well be acquired by ELAPP, and now is the time to do it.

As an architect I don’t feel we should build on every vacant parcel, having open and unaltered greenspace throughout the county adds to our quality of life, the quality of our built environment, and improves the diversity and strength of the natural environment and old Florida landscape that we love—that’s why many of us live here.

I am tired of the rest of the state viewing Hillsborough County has the backwater of the State, please insure that ELAPP is continued and that our county can continue its slow crawl towards a brighter future, and a new millennium.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear County Commission:</p>
<p>I recently read the March 31 Tampa Tribune article titled “Poll On Land Conservation Program Put On Hold”.</p>
<p>I am a local practicing architect who lives in Temple Terrace and I am flabbergasted at the backwardness of County Administrator Pat Bean’s remarks in the article.  She is at best uninformed, at worse she’s a BOCC pawn.  Obviously, Ms. Bean is acting on directive from at least some of the County Commission, if not, then she should be forced to resign immediately.</p>
<p>Not continuing with ELAPP, which citizens throughout the county will tell you is one of the smartest programs the county has ever embarked on, is incredibly myopic and goes against the direction of groups like 1000 friends of Florida and others.  </p>
<p>ELAPP is needed.  I know, as I have been nominating properties for ELAPP acquisition every year for the last six years.  I can tell you that it is hard to find undeveloped property to nominate in the county that some developer does not already have their eye on, and since the land development industry (and unfortunately largely not “good” development) is so obscenely powerful in our county, not one of the properties I have nominated as ever made it to acquisition (though some got close).  And while it is probably naïve, as Bean suggests, to only consider land for ELAPP that has not seen the hand of man in the last 178 years, there is plenty of land that has beautiful second or third growth forests on it that should well be acquired by ELAPP, and now is the time to do it.</p>
<p>As an architect I don’t feel we should build on every vacant parcel, having open and unaltered greenspace throughout the county adds to our quality of life, the quality of our built environment, and improves the diversity and strength of the natural environment and old Florida landscape that we love—that’s why many of us live here.</p>
<p>I am tired of the rest of the state viewing Hillsborough County has the backwater of the State, please insure that ELAPP is continued and that our county can continue its slow crawl towards a brighter future, and a new millennium.</p>
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		<title>By: FL Cracker</title>
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		<dc:creator>FL Cracker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 12:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bean is out of control. Still. I guess ELAPP funding does not fit into her cheerleading mantra &quot;Hillsborough is the best county in the USA! rah rah&quot;...oh yeah, Pat. Paved over with cracker box subdivisions is how you would like to see it. ok. ok. Throw in a few nature preserves so the grandkids can see FL how it used to be..but according to Queen Bean we&#039;ve got enough now! no need to overdo it on the nature thingy, enough already. 

Queen Bean needs to remember that she is not an elected official who influences policy. And shut the heck up. Especially about our precious ELAPP program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bean is out of control. Still. I guess ELAPP funding does not fit into her cheerleading mantra &#8220;Hillsborough is the best county in the USA! rah rah&#8221;&#8230;oh yeah, Pat. Paved over with cracker box subdivisions is how you would like to see it. ok. ok. Throw in a few nature preserves so the grandkids can see FL how it used to be..but according to Queen Bean we&#8217;ve got enough now! no need to overdo it on the nature thingy, enough already. </p>
<p>Queen Bean needs to remember that she is not an elected official who influences policy. And shut the heck up. Especially about our precious ELAPP program.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 11:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bean strikes again........adding to her recent list of accomplishments including misleading our delegation regarding local bill#1 which has turned into HB #723, losing 2+million dollars in affordable housing, and oh yeah don&#039;t forget her investigation on county staff that lied to citizens about a BYPASS (the staff member is caught on DVD and yet she found no wrong-doing!) 

I asked our Commissioners how much ELAPP  land can $200,000+ buy in today&#039;s market
and suggested we re-appropriate Ms. Bean&#039;s salary on something worth spending it on!
Maybe Commissioner Sharpe should hold a workshop to talk about her job description and put her under a microscope publicly like he is doing to the MPO director!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bean strikes again&#8230;&#8230;..adding to her recent list of accomplishments including misleading our delegation regarding local bill#1 which has turned into HB #723, losing 2+million dollars in affordable housing, and oh yeah don&#8217;t forget her investigation on county staff that lied to citizens about a BYPASS (the staff member is caught on DVD and yet she found no wrong-doing!) </p>
<p>I asked our Commissioners how much ELAPP  land can $200,000+ buy in today&#8217;s market<br />
and suggested we re-appropriate Ms. Bean&#8217;s salary on something worth spending it on!<br />
Maybe Commissioner Sharpe should hold a workshop to talk about her job description and put her under a microscope publicly like he is doing to the MPO director!</p>
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		<title>By: Charlotte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlotte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 01:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ELAPP program was voted on by the TAXPAYERS of Hillsborough County and using the money for anything else would be a clear violation of the public trust. Although it doesn&#039;t appear that the public trust is anything that the County Administrator is too concerned about these days. The County Administrator DOES NOT.... I repeat DOES NOT....  control the County Commissioners or at least I don&#039;t seem to recall reading this in the county charter. I would think that Ms. Bean should be more concerned in addressing some of the recent shameful displays of unethical behavior by several county employees (Elections Supervisor, Building Department inspectors, Fire Marshal, etc.) than using ELAPP as a diversionary tactic to draw attention away from all of these goings on. ELAPP will be preserved regardless of Ms. Bean&#039;s lame attempt to wrestle it away from the taxpayers in this county.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ELAPP program was voted on by the TAXPAYERS of Hillsborough County and using the money for anything else would be a clear violation of the public trust. Although it doesn&#8217;t appear that the public trust is anything that the County Administrator is too concerned about these days. The County Administrator DOES NOT&#8230;. I repeat DOES NOT&#8230;.  control the County Commissioners or at least I don&#8217;t seem to recall reading this in the county charter. I would think that Ms. Bean should be more concerned in addressing some of the recent shameful displays of unethical behavior by several county employees (Elections Supervisor, Building Department inspectors, Fire Marshal, etc.) than using ELAPP as a diversionary tactic to draw attention away from all of these goings on. ELAPP will be preserved regardless of Ms. Bean&#8217;s lame attempt to wrestle it away from the taxpayers in this county.</p>
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