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		<title>By: M. Fowler</title>
		<link>http://sticksoffire.com/2008/06/04/huge-rebel-flag-gets-reaction/comment-page-1/#comment-222574</link>
		<dc:creator>M. Fowler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: Tampa - Confederate Flag
For those who would like to know:
It has been leaked that Hillsborough County Board of County Commissioner are planing not only to refuse to renew the permit for the flag, but to lease bill boards in the area of I-4 and I-75 to apoligize for the hugh Confederate Flag. 
Abolishing slavery was not the main issue that leading to Civil War, but was used to gain support from the sympathetic norther state.  Do people just not read their history?  The flag, while being a symbol of slavery to one person is a symbol of proud southern haritage to one who lost ancestors in the Civil War. 
I am a christian, and therefore the rainbow has one meaning for me, yet it has another for gay people.
Each of finds offence in one thing or another.  In these hard economic times I feel tax dollars could find a better use than apologetic billboards.  If you agree - Let them know with your phone call, letters and emails(google: Hillsborough County Government Florida).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: Tampa &#8211; Confederate Flag<br />
For those who would like to know:<br />
It has been leaked that Hillsborough County Board of County Commissioner are planing not only to refuse to renew the permit for the flag, but to lease bill boards in the area of I-4 and I-75 to apoligize for the hugh Confederate Flag.<br />
Abolishing slavery was not the main issue that leading to Civil War, but was used to gain support from the sympathetic norther state.  Do people just not read their history?  The flag, while being a symbol of slavery to one person is a symbol of proud southern haritage to one who lost ancestors in the Civil War.<br />
I am a christian, and therefore the rainbow has one meaning for me, yet it has another for gay people.<br />
Each of finds offence in one thing or another.  In these hard economic times I feel tax dollars could find a better use than apologetic billboards.  If you agree &#8211; Let them know with your phone call, letters and emails(google: Hillsborough County Government Florida).</p>
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		<title>By: M. Fowler</title>
		<link>http://sticksoffire.com/2008/06/04/huge-rebel-flag-gets-reaction/comment-page-1/#comment-222568</link>
		<dc:creator>M. Fowler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: Tampa - Confederate Flag
For those who would like to know:
It has been leaked that Hillsborough County Board of County Commissioner are planing not only to refuse to renew the permit for the flag, but to lease bill boards in the area of I-4 and I-75 to apoligize for the hugh Confederate Flag. 
Abolishing slavery was not the main issue that leading to Civil War, but was used to gain support from the sympathetic norther state.  Do people just not read their history?  The flag, while being a symbol of slavery to one person is a symbol of proud southern haritage to one who lost ancestors in the Civil War. 
I am a christian, and therefore the rainbow has one meaning for me, yet it has another for gay people.
Each of finds offince in one thing or another.  In these hard economic times I feel tax dollars could find a better use than apologetic billboards.  If you agree - Let them know with your phone call, letters and emails(google: Hillsborough County Government Florida).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: Tampa &#8211; Confederate Flag<br />
For those who would like to know:<br />
It has been leaked that Hillsborough County Board of County Commissioner are planing not only to refuse to renew the permit for the flag, but to lease bill boards in the area of I-4 and I-75 to apoligize for the hugh Confederate Flag.<br />
Abolishing slavery was not the main issue that leading to Civil War, but was used to gain support from the sympathetic norther state.  Do people just not read their history?  The flag, while being a symbol of slavery to one person is a symbol of proud southern haritage to one who lost ancestors in the Civil War.<br />
I am a christian, and therefore the rainbow has one meaning for me, yet it has another for gay people.<br />
Each of finds offince in one thing or another.  In these hard economic times I feel tax dollars could find a better use than apologetic billboards.  If you agree &#8211; Let them know with your phone call, letters and emails(google: Hillsborough County Government Florida).</p>
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		<title>By: Linda Lee</title>
		<link>http://sticksoffire.com/2008/06/04/huge-rebel-flag-gets-reaction/comment-page-1/#comment-219405</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Junior,
Who said anything different? Cultures were different, then as well as today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Junior,<br />
Who said anything different? Cultures were different, then as well as today.</p>
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		<title>By: junior</title>
		<link>http://sticksoffire.com/2008/06/04/huge-rebel-flag-gets-reaction/comment-page-1/#comment-219121</link>
		<dc:creator>junior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eveeryone knows that more Americans died in this war than anyother war. No matter what you say both sides were All AMERICANS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eveeryone knows that more Americans died in this war than anyother war. No matter what you say both sides were All AMERICANS.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda Lee</title>
		<link>http://sticksoffire.com/2008/06/04/huge-rebel-flag-gets-reaction/comment-page-1/#comment-216431</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are we done debating? Funny how people will gripe and complain about our Battle Flag, but can not take the time to tell us what and why they are complaining.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are we done debating? Funny how people will gripe and complain about our Battle Flag, but can not take the time to tell us what and why they are complaining.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda Lee</title>
		<link>http://sticksoffire.com/2008/06/04/huge-rebel-flag-gets-reaction/comment-page-1/#comment-215891</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 23:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We just ran out&#039;a bullets before the yanks ran out&#039;a immigrants!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We just ran out&#8217;a bullets before the yanks ran out&#8217;a immigrants!</p>
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		<title>By: junior</title>
		<link>http://sticksoffire.com/2008/06/04/huge-rebel-flag-gets-reaction/comment-page-1/#comment-215669</link>
		<dc:creator>junior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me tell you a true story. In 1956 I Took a course in histoty at OSU with one of my sorority sisters from Georgia. When we got to the civil war she was appalled,she kept saying to me ,,,,but we one the war, this history book says we did not. Is not this the problem....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me tell you a true story. In 1956 I Took a course in histoty at OSU with one of my sorority sisters from Georgia. When we got to the civil war she was appalled,she kept saying to me ,,,,but we one the war, this history book says we did not. Is not this the problem&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda Lee</title>
		<link>http://sticksoffire.com/2008/06/04/huge-rebel-flag-gets-reaction/comment-page-1/#comment-215265</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 13:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;JUST THINK,,WITHOUT THE CONFEDERATE WAR AND FLAG,MARGERT MITCHELL COULD NEVER HAVE WRITTEN GONE WITH THE WIND ,AND CLARK GABLE COULD NEVER HAVE SAID I DONT GIVE A DAMN AT THE END OF ONE OF THE MOST SPECTACULAR FILMS EVER MADE IN THE USA.&quot;
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And for that 600,000 lives were lost?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;JUST THINK,,WITHOUT THE CONFEDERATE WAR AND FLAG,MARGERT MITCHELL COULD NEVER HAVE WRITTEN GONE WITH THE WIND ,AND CLARK GABLE COULD NEVER HAVE SAID I DONT GIVE A DAMN AT THE END OF ONE OF THE MOST SPECTACULAR FILMS EVER MADE IN THE USA.&#8221;<br />
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And for that 600,000 lives were lost?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://sticksoffire.com/2008/06/04/huge-rebel-flag-gets-reaction/comment-page-1/#comment-215180</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 18:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is the dichotomy of being a young and progressive Southerner.  &quot;The South&quot; is in no way inferior to &quot;The North&quot;--morally, spiritually, or intellectually.

I am not ashamed that some of my relatives fought and died in the Civil War for the South, nor I am not ashamed that some of my relatives fought and died for the North.  Their portraits hang side by side on my wall.  

I recently cancelled my subscription to the New York Times as I couldn&#039;t stand reading about their ignorant and stereotypical views about the South.

Pre-Civil War the elite of Southern society were as educated as the elite of the North.  In fact, the Planters were largely more educated than the robber barons, very few of who knew Latin, or who Homer was.

The South used real slaves, the North used pseudo-slaves--the largely illiterate immigrant masses &quot;yearning to breathe free&quot;.  Both got something for nothing.

The history of the South is sometimes unfortunate, just as the history of the North is, in turn just as is the history of the US.  In many ways the way the South does things today is superior to the North does them.  No one is perfect.

In short, I am proud of who I am, a young, progressive Southerner, and no I am not looking to the North, or the West, for guidance.

The entire country is racist, black and white and red and yellow, that&#039;s a problem, it might be human nature, but Americans of African ancestry can certainly help this situation by trying harder to better their own.  I believe that if a significant proportion of my fellow Americans of German ancestry lived in &quot;the hood&quot; and were responsible for a large proportion of crime, I&#039;d be down there trying to assist them in &quot;breaking the cycle&quot;.

The flag going up is great, if nothing more it sparks the beginning of a dialogue that&#039;s needed to happen for a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is the dichotomy of being a young and progressive Southerner.  &#8220;The South&#8221; is in no way inferior to &#8220;The North&#8221;&#8211;morally, spiritually, or intellectually.</p>
<p>I am not ashamed that some of my relatives fought and died in the Civil War for the South, nor I am not ashamed that some of my relatives fought and died for the North.  Their portraits hang side by side on my wall.  </p>
<p>I recently cancelled my subscription to the New York Times as I couldn&#8217;t stand reading about their ignorant and stereotypical views about the South.</p>
<p>Pre-Civil War the elite of Southern society were as educated as the elite of the North.  In fact, the Planters were largely more educated than the robber barons, very few of who knew Latin, or who Homer was.</p>
<p>The South used real slaves, the North used pseudo-slaves&#8211;the largely illiterate immigrant masses &#8220;yearning to breathe free&#8221;.  Both got something for nothing.</p>
<p>The history of the South is sometimes unfortunate, just as the history of the North is, in turn just as is the history of the US.  In many ways the way the South does things today is superior to the North does them.  No one is perfect.</p>
<p>In short, I am proud of who I am, a young, progressive Southerner, and no I am not looking to the North, or the West, for guidance.</p>
<p>The entire country is racist, black and white and red and yellow, that&#8217;s a problem, it might be human nature, but Americans of African ancestry can certainly help this situation by trying harder to better their own.  I believe that if a significant proportion of my fellow Americans of German ancestry lived in &#8220;the hood&#8221; and were responsible for a large proportion of crime, I&#8217;d be down there trying to assist them in &#8220;breaking the cycle&#8221;.</p>
<p>The flag going up is great, if nothing more it sparks the beginning of a dialogue that&#8217;s needed to happen for a long time.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda Lee</title>
		<link>http://sticksoffire.com/2008/06/04/huge-rebel-flag-gets-reaction/comment-page-1/#comment-215157</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 15:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as I would love to have the Kennedy brothers and H.K. on the forum, I think that is highly unlikely. My grandmother was born in Tampa 102 years ago; her people came from South Carolina, my mother&#039;s side has been here since 1830, I was born in the state, so my history is very Southron. In 61 years I have seen this &#039;Southern&#039; state change from Southern to the new yankeeland. I am forever hearing, &quot;We don&#039;t do it this way up north.&quot; I have continually moved further north to get more Southron. I saw the beautiful flag go up at I-10 &amp; I-75, a few years back. As a matter of fact my above poem was read at the ceremony. The Constitution does not say, &quot;We have the right to not be offended.&quot; There is plenty of things in this world that offend me, but the world does not stop nor does it care. The battle flag was just that, a battle flag, in a war that wanted to seperate from the yankee union. How many times do we Southrons have to wince when Leno or the other 11:30 boob gets on and makes fun of the South? When was the last movie made that did not picture Southrons as idiots? To many people fly the battle flag and could not tell you who was the president of the C.S.A. Our children are not taught their history, yet are taught of the pilgrim&#039;s landing. This state is to busy paving over it&#039;s own history to ever try and teach any.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I would love to have the Kennedy brothers and H.K. on the forum, I think that is highly unlikely. My grandmother was born in Tampa 102 years ago; her people came from South Carolina, my mother&#8217;s side has been here since 1830, I was born in the state, so my history is very Southron. In 61 years I have seen this &#8216;Southern&#8217; state change from Southern to the new yankeeland. I am forever hearing, &#8220;We don&#8217;t do it this way up north.&#8221; I have continually moved further north to get more Southron. I saw the beautiful flag go up at I-10 &amp; I-75, a few years back. As a matter of fact my above poem was read at the ceremony. The Constitution does not say, &#8220;We have the right to not be offended.&#8221; There is plenty of things in this world that offend me, but the world does not stop nor does it care. The battle flag was just that, a battle flag, in a war that wanted to seperate from the yankee union. How many times do we Southrons have to wince when Leno or the other 11:30 boob gets on and makes fun of the South? When was the last movie made that did not picture Southrons as idiots? To many people fly the battle flag and could not tell you who was the president of the C.S.A. Our children are not taught their history, yet are taught of the pilgrim&#8217;s landing. This state is to busy paving over it&#8217;s own history to ever try and teach any.</p>
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