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	<title>Comments on: ending the tampa bay creative diaspora (part i)</title>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://sticksoffire.com/2008/08/14/ending-the-tampa-bay-creative-diaspora-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-238329</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 01:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can build all the bike trails and yuppie conveniences you want, but if they can&#039;t get a job here and can&#039;t work a living wage here they will not come, and the ones here will leave. 

It is the economy. This blathering on ambout amenities is the same junk we have been hearing for years about how Tampa Bay &quot;Pays in sunshine&quot;.

We have great weather and beaches yet we have a creative and educated workforce crisis, does that tell you anything? 6.3% unemployment with all that sunshine? 

Yes we need mass transit, but it is not the only issue, it is not the easy to ID and repeat buzz word it is being used as. 

Find me creative workers who will be able to afford to buy a month-pass for the rail system or the increased taxes to build it.

Jobs, money, opportunity, upward mobiity, that is what we need!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can build all the bike trails and yuppie conveniences you want, but if they can&#8217;t get a job here and can&#8217;t work a living wage here they will not come, and the ones here will leave. </p>
<p>It is the economy. This blathering on ambout amenities is the same junk we have been hearing for years about how Tampa Bay &#8220;Pays in sunshine&#8221;.</p>
<p>We have great weather and beaches yet we have a creative and educated workforce crisis, does that tell you anything? 6.3% unemployment with all that sunshine? </p>
<p>Yes we need mass transit, but it is not the only issue, it is not the easy to ID and repeat buzz word it is being used as. </p>
<p>Find me creative workers who will be able to afford to buy a month-pass for the rail system or the increased taxes to build it.</p>
<p>Jobs, money, opportunity, upward mobiity, that is what we need!</p>
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		<title>By: kombatrock</title>
		<link>http://sticksoffire.com/2008/08/14/ending-the-tampa-bay-creative-diaspora-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-238277</link>
		<dc:creator>kombatrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 19:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Urban design and the built environment has a whole lot to do with livable, economically successful cities and the culture that exists within them. We&#039;ve been pretending otherwise for a long time and continuing to do so, to quote Ed, &quot;is foolish.&quot; I support your call to &quot;ACT&quot; but we can&#039;t both ignore bureaucracy and demand things from them. We have to understand why some cities work and others don&#039;t and use that information as we move forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Urban design and the built environment has a whole lot to do with livable, economically successful cities and the culture that exists within them. We&#8217;ve been pretending otherwise for a long time and continuing to do so, to quote Ed, &#8220;is foolish.&#8221; I support your call to &#8220;ACT&#8221; but we can&#8217;t both ignore bureaucracy and demand things from them. We have to understand why some cities work and others don&#8217;t and use that information as we move forward.</p>
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		<title>By: David Jenkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Jenkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Testify, Ed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Testify, Ed!</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://sticksoffire.com/2008/08/14/ending-the-tampa-bay-creative-diaspora-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-237755</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is about economic success - we can not muddle the issue by letting buzz words become the catch all answer. 

We want a creative economy and everyone talks about transportation and other urban planning issues. It is not the answer; it is not the whole answer or issue. To act otherwise s foolish.

The Richard Florida kool-aid society has been talking this kind of junk over at Creative Tampa Bay, they do little, understand litle, effect nothing, and the slow down ward spiral of our community and culture continues. 

Buy art, hire local freelancers, get your self trained, and demand our leaders do more then dole out their budgets on their cronies and the dusty ineffective bureaucracies. Ignore the bureaucracies, do not look to them, any comttee or government to provide leadership. Act locally, most importantly ACT! Demand better from your leaders, replace them when they fail. ACT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is about economic success &#8211; we can not muddle the issue by letting buzz words become the catch all answer. </p>
<p>We want a creative economy and everyone talks about transportation and other urban planning issues. It is not the answer; it is not the whole answer or issue. To act otherwise s foolish.</p>
<p>The Richard Florida kool-aid society has been talking this kind of junk over at Creative Tampa Bay, they do little, understand litle, effect nothing, and the slow down ward spiral of our community and culture continues. </p>
<p>Buy art, hire local freelancers, get your self trained, and demand our leaders do more then dole out their budgets on their cronies and the dusty ineffective bureaucracies. Ignore the bureaucracies, do not look to them, any comttee or government to provide leadership. Act locally, most importantly ACT! Demand better from your leaders, replace them when they fail. ACT!</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need to be aware of what we have already - there is a ton of worthy stuff happening in Tampa Bay. Out institutions can&#039;t or won’t advertise it as they focus on tourists. 

I do my part. I compile hundreds of local business and cultural events and make it available. No one can ever say there is nothing cultural or interesting here to me, I got the proof.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need to be aware of what we have already &#8211; there is a ton of worthy stuff happening in Tampa Bay. Out institutions can&#8217;t or won’t advertise it as they focus on tourists. </p>
<p>I do my part. I compile hundreds of local business and cultural events and make it available. No one can ever say there is nothing cultural or interesting here to me, I got the proof.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>about New World - New World is great. I love New World. But, after a couple of years of meeting folks there every Friday for happy hour, it&#039;s clear that it&#039;s not really designed to handle large groups. My experience with open-invitation, long-term meet-ups is that there&#039;s a lot of variation in the number of people who will show up at any given time. You don&#039;t want to rent out a large space, because only a few people might show up. But, you also want a place large enough to accommodate many people when they do show up. 

To Ed - It&#039;s both amenities and jobs. I think Richard Florida carries a little too much weight when it comes to thinking about urban design. As you point out, jobs and entrepreneurship are critical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>about New World &#8211; New World is great. I love New World. But, after a couple of years of meeting folks there every Friday for happy hour, it&#8217;s clear that it&#8217;s not really designed to handle large groups. My experience with open-invitation, long-term meet-ups is that there&#8217;s a lot of variation in the number of people who will show up at any given time. You don&#8217;t want to rent out a large space, because only a few people might show up. But, you also want a place large enough to accommodate many people when they do show up. </p>
<p>To Ed &#8211; It&#8217;s both amenities and jobs. I think Richard Florida carries a little too much weight when it comes to thinking about urban design. As you point out, jobs and entrepreneurship are critical.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want change, then listen to Frank Zappa.  You need to be part of the change.  Vote.  Run for a political office.  The best way to effect the change you want is from within the system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want change, then listen to Frank Zappa.  You need to be part of the change.  Vote.  Run for a political office.  The best way to effect the change you want is from within the system.</p>
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		<title>By: kombatrock</title>
		<link>http://sticksoffire.com/2008/08/14/ending-the-tampa-bay-creative-diaspora-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-237532</link>
		<dc:creator>kombatrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 04:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad to see some dialogue on this subject. The urban planning blog Planetizen (http://www.planetizen.com/interchange) has a number of posts dealing with the future of suburban america and how to recreate and remodel cities like Tampa into more sensible communities. It&#039;s worth checking out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad to see some dialogue on this subject. The urban planning blog Planetizen (<a href="http://www.planetizen.com/interchange" rel="nofollow">http://www.planetizen.com/interchange</a>) has a number of posts dealing with the future of suburban america and how to recreate and remodel cities like Tampa into more sensible communities. It&#8217;s worth checking out.</p>
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		<title>By: pc</title>
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		<dc:creator>pc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 03:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of the few areas I have seen mentioned in the comments, no one has mentioned Gulfport&#039;s art community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of the few areas I have seen mentioned in the comments, no one has mentioned Gulfport&#8217;s art community.</p>
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		<title>By: Damien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>encouraging and stimulating entrepreneurship is a great place to start.  I strongly believe in supporting local restaurants, retail shops and establishments.  I find that I often get a return on my investment.  Becoming a regular at several of the local restaurants have allowed me to establish great professional and personal relationships with the owners, servers and staff.  Often I get client referrals from these relationships.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>encouraging and stimulating entrepreneurship is a great place to start.  I strongly believe in supporting local restaurants, retail shops and establishments.  I find that I often get a return on my investment.  Becoming a regular at several of the local restaurants have allowed me to establish great professional and personal relationships with the owners, servers and staff.  Often I get client referrals from these relationships.</p>
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